Can You Tell Me What To Do With These Supplements ???

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Hi all,

 

I've been lurking for a couple of weeks. I have learned a lot of

information on this site. I don't have much self-dicipline when it

comes to food, but I'm trying. Just when I added more fruits and

veggies, I read that the veggies aren't good enough because of the

depleted soil. So, I thought I should only eat raw foods. Then, I

read, that they should be organic. I'm at a loss on how to make them

taste good. Today, I decided that I should take supplements so off I

went to GNC.

 

I bought Woman's Ultra Mega vitamin w/500 mg calcium, 80 mg B complex

with lutein, lycopene and alpha-lipoic acid.

 

I also bought L-Carnitine 500 mg.

 

And Garden of Life Perfect Food Super Green Formula.

 

Now, I read that the Green Blue Algea is bad.

 

This seems complicated to me and I admire all of you for figuring it

out. I feel lost. (And $100.00 lighter in my wallet)

 

Can someone tell me if these will benefit me or if I should take them

back--before I open them. Do you have any tips for a beginner?

 

 

Therese

[Guest guest]

Pills, potions, powders, substances of all sorts, are palliative,

not nutrition. They force the body to abandon its healing and

cleansing, which is not a good thing. The body gives us symptoms for

a reason. Symptoms are a part of the healing and cleansing, and they

also are trying to force us to lay down to rest and sleep so that

the body can quickly and efficiently do its work.

 

In fact, most of the " supplements " available, are inorganic

compounds. They may put photos of lovely fruits and vegetables on

the bottles, and they may put some parsley or other nutrient in

there as a filler to attract customers. But the actual product is

generally an inorganic substance. The body cannot use inorganic

substances as nutrition, and nutrition is also not individual

substances. These are merely palliative, just as is aspirin, which

many people also take on a regular basis.

 

There is no " need " nor benefit to taking " supplements " , ever. In

fact they are counter to health. Only real food belongs in our

bodies, and only real food is compatible with our bodies. When the

body gives us symptoms, it's best to cooperate with the body, permit

the symptoms to be, not suppress them. They are the means the body

uses to heal us.

 

Food is a symphony of nutriments, many as yet undiscovered, all

working in concert. That is nutrition. There are no calcium trees or

plants in Nature, there are fruit trees, there are plants. We get

organic, complete nutrition in Nature. Inorganic substances cannot

nourish us, minerals must go through the plant, to be combined with

other nutrients including carbon, which renders them organic, making

them living and compatible with our bodies. Nutrition is only found

in real, whole foods which are compatible with our physiology.

 

When people just don't understand how the body works, they make all

kinds of incorrect assumptions and try to convince themselves and

each other to take pills, potions, powders, etc. instead of eat real

food. The body cannot use inorganic substances, ferment, etc. The

body must discard them as best it can, as quickly as it can. They

are toxic in the body. Plants convert minerals and inorganic

substances into organic ones--those are our food. We cannot cut out

the plants from the process and expect to be nourished. We are not

eaters of inorganic rocks or metals from the Earth, that is not our

biological adaptation. Our food comes from plants, and most

optimally from the product of the plants, namely the fruits and

nuts, which the plants make specifically for us to eat.

 

Effects from inorganic substances in our bodies are palliative, not

nourishing. It's really really simple, but many people will never

get it, always looking for something other than food to put into

their bodies--it's the conditioning we've all had, that whatever is

good for us tastes awful and comes in pills and other unnatural

forms, and that food is okay but is only a minor player in the game.

Sadly, people simply cannot divest themselves of the programming

taking them in the direction of palliatives.

 

Nothing that belongs in the body is in " supplement " form, it is in

food form. If food is real food, it is not stuffed into a pill,

powder, potion. Food is food, it looks like food, smells like food,

tastes like food, appetizing and beautiful in every respect. It's

really really simple--just go to the produce section in a store,

you're hit with such unbelievable beauty and sensation all around

you--it will inspire strong desire. Then go to the aisle with all

the pills and potions and powders--if you feel any desire for all

those bottles of pills and powders and potions, it's only because of

the pictures of the fruits and veggies on the bottle to try to lure

people in. But the fruits and veggies are not in the bottles! They

are in the produce section, and in the great outdoors, that's where

our food is! As for the pills, potions, powders, if health is

desired, then run the other way!

 

What " proof " can there be that Nature is the source of our food,

that our food, all that we should put into our bodies, is in plant

form, and not as algae powders, or inorganic substances, or metals

from the Earth, or animal products, etc.? And what proof does there

need to be? Is it not sufficient that humans, as well as other

animals, have been surviving without pills and potions and powders

for millions of years? Is it not sufficient that Nature provides us

with the beautiful, wonderful foods that attract us and nourish us?

 

The argument that inorganic substances are now somehow necessary

because of soil being not as mineral rich as they could be, is

completely baseless--we cannot " mineralize " from inorganic

substances for one thing. The body cannot utilize inorganic

substances, despite much propaganda to the contrary. And to think

that at no time in history has there ever been a shortage of ideal

soil conditions is myopic. The Earth has been beset by all kinds of

catastrophes and humans have had all kinds of shortages, famines,

soil erosion, climatic cataclysms, and still survived, and thrived!

Fortunately, they didn't have the supplement companies telling them

they couldn't do it. They told the bumblebee he couldn't fly either--

fortunately the bumblebee didn't listen to them and is happily

flying.

 

Yes, the soil is not as mineral rich as it would ideally be in many

cases. But we cannot " mineralize " by putting inorganic substances

into our bodies. We can only further toxify our bodies by consuming

anything other than real foods, the ones to which we are

biologically naturally adapted. And putting toxins into our bodies

will only take us further from the goal of optimal nutrition and

actual health. All the " proof " about how supposedly wonderful and

beneficial pills, potions and powders are comes from those who want

to sell the stuff. Anyone can make any claims about any substance,

and there are zillions of " supplement " companies out there, untold

numbers-- " supplements " are BIG business! The " supplement " empire

just keeps growing exponentially, the staggering smorgasbord of

substances is just mind boggling. These companies ceaselessly toil

to sell their products, so they try to create a need for them, by

getting people to believe that these substances are necessary and

beneficial, and even that it's dangerous to not take these

substances, and so many people buy this wholesale.

 

Isn't it ironic that people are running to remove inorganic metals

from their teeth, yet they are so eager to stuff them down their

throats?

 

Of course, people are going to have symptoms go away from taking

substances. But it is a palliation effect. It is easy to assume that

someone has a deficiency of a certain nutrient. However, nutrients

work in concert. There is never a deficiency of one nutrient to the

exclusion of other nutrients, Nature simply does not work that way.

If someone is starving, they have a deficiency—of food, of real

nutrition! They do not have a deficiency of any one element! Or of

any two or 5 or 100! If we give our bodies real food, they are not

deficient! If someone is eating a SAD diet, they have a deficiency

of real nutrition. They are not deficient in this or that, they are

deficient in real food, which has all the nutrition we need, in the

right amounts for our bodies, in the form they need and can use,

plus nutrients as yet undiscovered. Eating our natural diet of

fruits, leafy greens, nuts, and edible seeds, in whatever variety

and proportion our bodies direct us to, is all the nutrition we need.

 

We cannot simply begin to take one or more " nutrients " , even if they

were truly nourishing, which they are not—pills, potions, powders,

substances, are not nutrients—and expect health. Again, the solution

is simple, elegant: Eat food only, don't take anything. We get all

our nutrients from eating our natural foods. That is how it has

always been, humans cannot improve upon it, all efforts to do so can

only dig us further into the hole.

 

If we are eating our natural diet, we are not deficient. Though we

may still be not absorbing nutrients optimally. The symptoms are not

from not absorbing nutrients--our absorption on the raw vegan diet

is better than it's ever been, and on a raw vegan diet we are

getting far more nutrients, in raw, living form, than we ever have

before. Yet we didn't have " deficiencies " before, we didn't have

symptoms of " deficiency " on the SAD diet. We begin to get symptoms

when our bodies get cleaner. Symptoms are NOT a manifestation of a

deficiency! Symptoms are manifestations of the body healing,

cleansing, repairing, including fixing absorption.

 

Any toxins will give a stimulant effect, symptom suppression effect—

a palliative effect. You can get the same effect from cigarettes,

coffee, prozac, you name it. In one dose, a toxin will have a

stimulant effect, in another dose it will have a soporific effect.

But putting toxins into the body is just the body whipping itself

into a frenzy to hurriedly get rid of the toxin. It's just whipping

the tired horse, that is the stimulating effect. Or soporific

effect, or " tonic " effect. These are the types of effects that

people think is fixing a " deficiency " . But it's just palliation, the

effect that toxins in " supplement " form have on the body which is

frantically working to get rid of them.

 

On the other hand, when we stop whipping the tired horse, stop

taking in toxins of all kinds, including " supplements " , animal

products, etc., what are we left with? A tired horse! And the tired

horse needs rest, to recharge, not more toxins to whip the horse

into action again. Chronic fatigue is very common--it is the body

trying to force us to rest so that it can heal and recharge. And

real food does not have the " miraculous " effects on the body that

the toxic " supplements " do. Real food, the food to which we are

naturally biologically adapted, does not result in our feeling any

different after we've eaten, except that we don't feel hungry.

 

None of our problems are going to be improved by adding in toxic

foods and other palliatives to our diets. That just compounds the

problem, adding to assimilation problems. We can find " researchers "

to support any theory we can think up.

 

Algae is not vegan, it is not a plant. Algae are single-celled

organisms, just as are bacteria. Algae clump together and congregate

on the rocks under water, and algae are sometimes referred to

as " pond scum " . Forget about the artful sales pitches to get you

to " take " it. Go to a river or other body of water, look at the

algae growing on the rocks, and if you find yourself salivating for

it, then perhaps a claim could be made for it as real food.

 

One of the tests of what belongs in our bodies is whether it appeals

to us in the form it comes in Nature, and another test of it is

whether we can make a meal out of that one food alone. Our senses of

sight, smell, feel, taste, exist for a reason—they are what guide us

to that which is food for us, and away from that which is not. The

substances which are referred to as " supplements " are made into

pills which have to be swallowed, or powders or potions to be mixed

with real food such as fruit, in order to fool the body, bypassing

our senses which are there to protect us and guide us. We need to

listen to our bodies, our senses, not to those who purport to know

better than our bodies and try to endlessly scare us into buying and

consuming substances which don't belong in our bodies.

 

It's only common sense, but unfortunately people have been

conditioned and misled to disregard our innate intelligence. We need

to eat what appeals to us, as all creatures do. Eating our naturally

beautiful, appealing foods results in health--it's really not rocket

science, it's very simple. Our bodies are incredibly complex. Yet

they make our jobs very very simple--our senses guide us to our

natural foods, and away from those which are not compatible with our

bodies, that is the wisdom of the body, of Nature. Nature makes the

perfect foods for us, and makes them incredibly appealing.

 

Of course, organically grown food is best. But not because it is so

much more mineral-rich, which it may or may not be. The reason to

eat organically grown food is to get relatively toxin-free food. We

don't need to be concerned with getting more, more, more of

everything. More is not necessarily better, and all the manic

consulting of charts done by raw fooders to make sure they are

getting " enough " nutrients, is redundant. Isn't it ironic how many

people have lived on coffee and donuts all their lives and were

never concerned about " deficiencies " , yet when they go raw vegan,

and are getting nothing but nutrition from their foods, suddenly

begin to worry about deficiencies, and add back the toxins to their

diet in the form of " supplements " ? After the body has cleansed and

repaired a bit, and fixed any absorption problems, one realizes how

relatively little nutrition one needs. More is not better, there are

no " superfoods " in Nature, despite any huckster's claims to the

contrary. What is optimal is to only put into our bodies real food,

that which is physiologically compatible with our bodies—the

beautiful fruits, nuts, leafy greens.

 

For further information, I would suggest the following classic

books, which you can find new or used on-line:

 

" Superior Nutrition " , by Dr. Herbert Shelton

 

" The Science and Fine Art of Food and Nutrition " , by Dr. Herbert

Shelton

 

" The Natural Food of Man " , by Hereward Carrington

 

Zsuzsa