Guest guest Posted March 23, 2002 Report Share Posted March 23, 2002 you know, the british REALLY don't have to follow our lead..its cool..do yer own thing! don't fall in line behind our usurper.... UK Warns Saddam of Nuclear Retaliation by George Jones, Political Editor and Anton La Guardia March 21, 2002 BRITAIN would be ready to make a nuclear strike against states such as Iraq if they used weapons of mass destruction against British forces, Geoff Hoon, the Defense Secretary, told MPs yesterday. He issued his warning as officials in Washington and London privately predicted that military action to try to topple Saddam Hussein was likely to be launched at the end of the year. Mr Hoon was briefing the Commons defense select committee on the threat posed by four countries Britain had identified as " states of concern " : Iraq, Iran, Libya and North Korea. He said that Saddam had already used chemical weapons against his own people. The possibility that rogue states would be prepared to use such weapons again, possibly sacrificing their own population, could not be ruled out. He said that dictators such as Saddam " can be absolutely confident that in the right conditions we would be willing to use our nuclear weapons. " What I cannot be absolutely confident about is whether that would be sufficient to deter them from using a weapon of mass destruction in the first place. " Mr Hoon's willingness to confirm readiness to use nuclear weapons in such circumstances was seen at Westminster as a clear sign that the Government is becoming more alarmed that Saddam is developing chemical, biological and nuclear weapons. A joint Ministry of Defense and Foreign Office paper to the committee said it was a " serious cause for concern " that states were developing a ballistic missile capability at the same time as they were seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction. Mr Hoon said that Britain could come within range of missiles fired from the Middle East within the " next few years " . Although Mr Hoon later denied in the Commons that any decision had been taken on military action against Iraq, his comments about the nuclear deterrent will add to Labour MPs' concern that such preparations are being actively considered. His forthrightness was unexpected, because many Labour MPs are opposed to retaining nuclear weapons. In the 1980s Labour was unilateralist and Tony Blair was briefly a member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, although as party leader he has backed the nuclear deterrent. Mr Hoon's comments follow similar noises from America. Two weeks ago a leaked Pentagon policy document laid out the possibility of a " devastating response " to the use of biological or chemical weapons against American troops. The Prime Minister intends to use the large deployment of British fighting forces to Afghanistan as a political lever to push President Bush into seeking United Nations approval for any military action against Iraq. He supports Mr Bush in his campaign to remove Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and topple Saddam, but wants to broaden the front. Downing Street hopes the deployment to Afghanistan of 1,700 British troops, led by 45 Commando the Royal Marines, a unit specializing in Arctic warfare, will strengthen his position when he meets Mr Bush at his Texas ranch after Easter. " The speed and size of the deployment to Afghanistan is a check that Blair will cash in, " a source said. " He will tell Bush that he needs to carry the international community with him. " The Foreign Office, in particular, is deeply worried about the impact that a war in Iraq would have on the Middle East. But it appears to have been overruled by Mr Blair. " The Prime Minister thinks Saddam poses a threat that has to be met with a strong response, " a source said. " He is feeling gung-ho. " Whitehall officials said that America first made its request for commandos at the height of Operation Anaconda this month in a " panicky " response to the unexpectedly fierce resistance Taliban and al-Qa'eda fighters put up in the mountains south of Kabul. The United States suffered its biggest casualties of the war on the opening day of Anaconda, when eight Americans and at least three Afghan allies were killed. This week America said Anaconda had been successful, but British officials privately spoke of " a near disaster " and said many guerrillas appeared to have slipped away despite American claims to have killed hundreds of the enemy. Dick Cheney, the American vice-president, headed home yesterday after an 11-day tour of the Middle East in which he received little support for an attack on Iraq. Instead he was urged to do more to end the fighting between Israel and the Palestinians. As Iraq gloated about Mr Cheney's " bitter disappointment " , the Turkish prime minister, Bulent Ecevit, said he felt greatly relieved that Washington was not planning imminent action against Iraq. " This does not mean an operation has been ruled out, " he said. " But I do not think there could be military action in the coming few months. " http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Nuclear-Danger.html Nuclear Weapons Talk on the Rise By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS March 22, 2002 WASHINGTON (AP) -- In rhetoric and reality, nations around the world seem to be creeping toward a new military philosophy that doesn't rule out using nuclear weapons on the battlefield or to settle regional disputes. There are signs that ``the unthinkable'' is being redefined to accommodate new anxieties and advancing technology. President Bush and the British government have warned terrorists with weapons of mass destruction that ``all options'' are open for a military response. Military officials in both India and Pakistan have openly discussed how their nuclear weapons would prove superior to their neighbors' in a conflict. The CIA believes North Korea has produced enough plutonium for at least one nuclear weapon and still has designs to claim South Korea. Those who watch attitudes toward nuclear weapons say the ``temperature'' is rising. ``The world is searching for a new status quo, that will involve new players and new dangers,'' said Ret. Army Col. Daniel Smith, who is chief of research at the Washington-based Center for Defense Information. ``Our nuclear posture seems to move us closer toward use of nuclear weapons in a conflict even against a country that has no nuclear weapons of any kind,'' he said. ``The belief that countries that do develop chemical or biological weapons would be able to blackmail the United States is prompting us to look into ways to change the equation.'' Part of what is causing the renewed discussion of nuclear weapons is the idea that they can be scaled down and used in a limited fashion, so as not to bring about a doomsday scenario. The United States demolished the Japanese city of Hiroshima with an atomic bomb that had an explosive yield of 13 kilotons -- equivalent to 13,000 tons of TNT. In its arsenal now are weapons that dwarf those -- some with explosive yields of many megatons (millions of tons of TNT). The nation wants to develop weapons about a quarter of the size of those used in World War II. The Defense Department has asked Congress for permission to develop such bombs for demolishing fortified, underground military facilities. But even if the nuclear weapons are smaller, the United States is setting a harmful precedent by developing them, some say. Atomic pioneer Hans Bethe and fellow Nobel laureates Dudley Herschbach and John Polanyi condemned the plan for ending the taboo against using nuclear weapons ``beyond their Cold War function of deterring a Soviet attack.'' The threat of nuclear weapons being used in regional conflicts has also never been greater. Rivals India and Pakistan tested nuclear weapons in 1998. Since then, the situation has worsened. The conflict over Kashmir, a territory that sits along the border between the countries, brought the neighbors to the brink of war this year. This week CIA Director George Tenet said, ``The chance of war between these two nuclear-armed states is higher than at any point since 1971.'' ``If India were to conduct large-scale offensive operations into Pakistani Kashmir, Pakistan might retaliate with strikes of its own in the belief that its nuclear deterrent would limit the scope of an Indian counterattack. We are deeply concerned, however, that a conventional war, once begun, could escalate into nuclear confrontation.'' Even in a regional war, the effect could be horrific. M.V. Ramana, a Princeton University physicist from India, calculated that a 15-kiloton bomb dropped on Bombay would kill between 150,000 and 850,000 people in the short term. There are also trouble spots in East Asia. In late January, a CIA report assessed that ``North Korea has produced enough plutonium for at least one, and possibly two, nuclear weapons.'' President Bush signaled his concern about North Korea two months ago when he said the country was part of an ``axis of evil'' together with Iraq and Iran. This week, the administration said North Korean officials need ``to comply with their international obligations and agreements.'' And some experts even worry that the long-standing cold war between China and Taiwan could reach the point where small-scale nuclear weapons could be used one day. There is so much talk about the possibility of nuclear weapons use that even Britain, which usually remains silent in nuclear posturing, felt the need to talk about its arsenal. Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and leaders of other ``states of concern'' should be aware of Britain's willingness to use nuclear weapons if circumstances demanded, Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon said Wednesday. ``There are clearly some states who would be deterred by the fact that the U.K. possesses nuclear weapons and has the willingness and ability to use them in appropriate circumstances,'' Hoon said. But some states less friendly to Britain, ``I would be much less confident about.'' Some of those who oppose the development of nuclear weapons say the United States is worsening the situation. ``The approach of this administration has been to throw arms control out the window and attempt to obtain overwhelmingly superior force against everyone, through new weapons and missile defense,'' said Randall Forsberg, director for the Institute for Defense and Disarmament. ``That is going to cause small nations to develop weapons, not stop them.'' 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