Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Have you ever been to Country Life Restaurant in London (Warwick Street, near Piccadilly Circus)? It's run by the SDAs and all vegan with a high proportion of raw food. The London Vegans have monthly lunchtime gatherings there on the second Sunday of the month, started up by Vanessa Clarke who is also active on Vegan Society council. If you don't live in London but manage to visit it's a place worth eating and good value. Lots of us who are non-Christian vegans like it there too. We manage to go occasionally on a Sunday. Lesley Simon pJones [simonpjones]05 March 2002 11:38 Subject: christianity All I will say on Christianity from my understanding is; firstly it is about Jesus Christ and his proclamation to believe he was sent into this world to try and save the sinners from the destructive fate in which they/we have chosen to pursue,why anyone who is wants what is right, yet chooses' to read the the life and quotes of Jesus Christ in the New Testament,and totally disregards the teachings, the simple wisdom that he reminds us of, which so many of us either has forgotten or chosen to ignore even towards meat- eaters and such,remembering his last recorded words on the cross,quote," forgive them for they know not what they do"unquote, and remembering that the Bible is made up of 66 books and 37 authors,What rings true for me ,Is, The Garden of Eden ideal where humans and animals live together in peace and Veganism, which it seems every Bible states clearly,and secondly Jesus' appeal to us ,( love God with all your heart,soul, mind and spirit and love your neighbour as your self),If I had not read that I would not such a ideal existed,Because I don't to anyone living like that, yet who could make up such thought,unless that some one knew something which no one else knew,Jesus is also quoted as reminding people that they have always condemned the righteous,even the ancient Prophets he is quoted as saying, For me two points jump out at me; firstly,The most important one, The Garden of Eden ;and secondly Jesus speaking to the religious leaders and reminding them of the truth which they seemed to have forgotten, which the Churches of today still have forgotten,apart from maybe the S,D,Adventists who do encourage a veggie diet, ps I don't believe Jesus ate animal flesh, sorry one last thing, Also remembering we were made imperfect ,because if we weren't we would have been able to resist wrong doing, Sp,To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2002 Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 > Simon pJones wrote: > > All I will say on Christianity from my understanding is; firstly it is > about Jesus Christ and his proclamation to believe he was sent into > this world to try and save the sinners from the destructive fate in > which they/we have chosen to pursue, That's actually not how I read the accounts of the pre-ressurection Jesus in the synoptic gospels. > why anyone who is wants what is > right, yet chooses' to read the the life and quotes of Jesus Christ in > the New Testament,and totally disregards the teachings, I'm not sure I follow this bit, sorry. You're saying you don't understand anyone who would read the gospels and not become a Christian? > the simple > wisdom that he reminds us of, which so many of us either has forgotten > or chosen to ignore even towards meat- eaters and such,remembering his > last recorded words on the cross, > quote, " forgive them for they know > not what they do " unquote, I always thought the rival gospel account " My god, my god, why have you forsaken me? " rang far truer. > and remembering that the Bible is made up of > 66 books and 37 authors,What rings true for me ,Is, The Garden of Eden > ideal where humans and animals live together in peace and Veganism, > which it seems every Bible states clearly,and secondly Jesus' appeal > to us ,( love God with all your heart,soul, mind and spirit and love > your neighbour as your self), Yup ... this is why the 7th day adventists are vegan. Go them. > If I had not read that I would not such a > ideal existed, You might have bumped into a vegan at some point. > Because I don't to anyone living like that, yet who > could make up such thought,unless that some one knew something which > no one else knew, Are you seriously saying that one has to " know something which no-one else knew " to posit any particular utopia. > For me two points jump out at me; firstly,The most important one, The > Garden of Eden ;and secondly Jesus speaking to the religious leaders > and reminding them of the truth which they seemed to have forgotten, > which the Churches of today still have forgotten,apart from maybe the > S,D,Adventists who do encourage a veggie diet, > ps I don't believe Jesus ate animal flesh, What about the feeding of the five thousand with loaves and fishes? What about all his fishermen friends? Some of the biblical miracles actively help fishermen at the expense of fishes! -- Ian McDonald http://www.mcdonald.me.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Angie, I have to agree with you there, with most people not seeming to care to much for animals and humans what ever their beliefs are,but I think we shouldn't turn away from good teaching where ever there source may come from,regardless of how people practice religion,may be those people should be reminded of the teachings that they are ment to be following rather than disregarding them and the teachings, My understanding of most religions is that love is the central driving force, being for all species.Genesis-1 for me seems to allow the possibility of all good teaching to be a reality! Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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