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In a message dated 12/25/01 7:33:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,

Snowbow writes:

 

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Now come on, Maggie Thatcher was a force of nature - it's like blaming

Florida for getting hit by those tornados :-) And if we're trading

dictators..... :-)

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wot, we are gettin more like you chaps all the time!! we have the beginnings

of a monarchy and everything...all hail prince georgie the second

poor hamilton and jefferson must be writhin in their tombs

now, if only we could get george to do that kewl wave yer queenie does, we

can join the ranks of civilized society...

fraggle

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Hi Fraggle

 

> and you kids spell it faerie, when obviously, its fairy...hahahhahaha

 

Nah - that's only the folk who think they're Celtic that spell it faerie :-)

 

> peter, you are scum on earth? wow, i'd be honored, you are the creator of

all

> life then, since early life was nuthin but scum and lipid bubbles..

> *shakes yer psuedopod*

 

Well, I don't like to boast about it :-)

 

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Peter

 

 

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Hi Fraggle

 

> wot, we are gettin more like you chaps all the time!! we have the

beginnings

> of a monarchy and everything...all hail prince georgie the second

 

Only the beginnings?

 

> poor hamilton and jefferson must be writhin in their tombs

 

But I should think Franklin and Washington are probably chuckling a bit!!!

 

> now, if only we could get george to do that kewl wave yer queenie does, we

> can join the ranks of civilized society...

 

I reckon the queen actually has a false hand which is programmed to wave

that way - I'm sure GWB could get hold of one ;-)

 

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Peter

 

 

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Hello,

 

I'm the moderator of and having just read the discussion on this

list feel I should make a comment. I do completely agree with what Peter

has been saying though and do not wish to prolong the discussion.

 

Unfortunately, so it seems, I have been away over Christmas and so am still

catching up on email and as such have not yet seen what has been posted on

my list since Thursday 20th.

 

>Whatever - if people disagree with the way this list operates, that's fine -

>some people will prefer Vegan UK, some will prefer Vegan Chat - it's not

>like we're in competition, we just provide different forums for people to

>make up their own minds.

 

I agree wholeheartedly with what Peter has said regarding our lists not

being in competition and instead offering different forums to different

people, this is precisely the difference between the two lists. They have

very different styles which I think compliment each other well because they

offer people the style of list which better suits them. I am also happy to

promote Vegan Chat for that reason (and it has always been promoted in the

guidelines which are regularly posted to the list as well as sent

to new rs), so that people who do not like my list will be able to

go somewhere more suitable for them. It is also worth noting that there is

a core of people on both lists who appreciate the contrasting styles and

the different types of discussion that that allows. Had this situation

been reversed (however unlikely that may be) and someone asked on my list

about any hostility with Vegan Chat I would have responded in the same way

that Peter has and emphasized that we are not on competition but provide

lists of different styles.

 

As Peter has said if anyone has a problem with then the best thing

to do is contact me directly (my address is at the top of this message), I

do not think bringing it up here is in anyones best interest although I

also do not feel that Rob had any intention of causing trouble and can

understand his feeling that it was something to be said here. That said if

criticizing one list on another is considered a one sided affair, then

criticizing said list on another does seem a tad hypocritical.

 

And on a more specific note...

 

> > its probably cuz there are toooo many yanks on veganchat fer vagan UK's

> liking

>Unfortunately you could be right - it does happen - and I have no idea why.

>I'm pleased that you and our other American friends are here.

 

is set up to offer be specifically UK focused as I had previously

found them to be lost, albeit understandably, on US dominated lists. That

said Americans, and those of any other nationality, are certainly welcome

if they don't mind being somewhere UK centric. I will say that Vegan Chat

does have a much better balance across the pond for a multicultural list,

if anything it could be said to be too UK centric.

 

Tomorrow I will be able to read through the discussions that have taken

place during the last week on and will respond to any comments made

there. I do want to apologize to Rob for feeling that he should not be

able to discuss my list or be critical of it, although I do agree with

Peter that it is not relevant to Vegan Chat and especially to those members

here who are not on my list. If you have any specific concerns you wish to

discuss with me I will be happy to address them, and will do so when I have

had read any comments you have made on .

 

I also want to apologize to Peter for this topic clogging up his list.

 

Michael

owner

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