Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 I recently d to both groups. Some people are active on both boards and clearly know each other so I would not have expected to see such open *hostility* against this group in ! It looks very strange, to say the least. Why is there such bad blood amongst us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Hi Rob (?) > I recently d to both groups. Some people are active on both > boards and clearly know each other so I would not have expected to > see such open *hostility* against this group in ! It looks > very strange, to say the least. Why is there such bad blood amongst > us? I'm not on Vegan UK anymore - although I used to be a while ago. This obviously makes it a bit tricky to comment as I don't know exactly what is being said over there, but I could take a couple of guesses as to individuals' reasons. Myself and Michael have different styles of moderation - Michael tends to be a bit more relaxed than me about what ends up on the list - at least while I was there, that included lots of insults and attacks aimed at individuals and groups. My aim with this list is to give vegans the opportunity to chat about any topic in a friendly environment - the only rule is that posts remain friendly (of course, sometimes we have big disagreements, but even then the posts remain polite and discuss the issues). One person recently left the list because I put them on moderation and rejected a post where they insulted about 6 members of the list - I know that this person is on Vegan UK, so perhaps they have decided to take out their anger over there? There are also two other individuals who I had some personal disagreements with when I was on Vegan UK - maybe they are taking out their personal dislike of me against the list because I moderate it? As I say, these are just guesses as I don't know what's been posted over on Vegan UK. Whatever - if people disagree with the way this list operates, that's fine - some people will prefer Vegan UK, some will prefer Vegan Chat - it's not like we're in competition, we just provide different forums for people to make up their own minds. BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Rob You could ask the moderator of VeganUk - see what he says. Jo > I recently d to both groups. Some people are active on both > boards and clearly know each other so I would not have expected to > see such open *hostility* against this group in ! It looks > very strange, to say the least. Why is there such bad blood amongst > us? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 robjstyle wrote: > > I recently d to both groups. Some people are active on both > boards and clearly know each other so I would not have expected to > see such open *hostility* against this group in ! It looks > very strange, to say the least. Why is there such bad blood amongst > us? I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith (who insults everyone, and frequently doesn't mean it) complain. -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 Ian McDonald wrote that *I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith (who insults everyone, and > frequently doesn't mean it) complain.* Ms Edith sounds like she means everything she says about veganchat. Or is it all some kind of *joke*? I just don't think it is very funny and I can't understand why there should be such *hate* out there between us when we all must share the same ideals about living without animal suffering in our world. or am i just naive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 The hostility against veganchat has nothing to do with me over on although I do susbscribe to that list, but I must say that I think bringing the subject up on veganchat is totally unnecessary. I hope you aren't trying to cause trouble. - " robjstyle " <robjstyle Sunday, December 23, 2001 9:12 AM looks like hell on > I recently d to both groups. Some people are active on both > boards and clearly know each other so I would not have expected to > see such open *hostility* against this group in ! It looks > very strange, to say the least. Why is there such bad blood amongst > us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 That's right Ian. Its got nothing to do with poor Michael or anybody else for that matter. Just Edith. > > I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith (who insults everyone, and > frequently doesn't mean it) complain. > > -- > Ian McDonald > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2001 Report Share Posted December 23, 2001 I think some people thrive on causing upset I try to ignore them Angie - " Jo " <Heartwork Sunday, December 23, 2001 12:26 PM Re: looks like hell on > Rob > > You could ask the moderator of VeganUk - see what he says. > > Jo > > > > I recently d to both groups. Some people are active on both > > boards and clearly know each other so I would not have expected to > > see such open *hostility* against this group in ! It looks > > very strange, to say the least. Why is there such bad blood amongst > > us? > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Edith is like that After a while you learn to take her comments with a pinch of salt or to just ignore her. Sometimes she can be very funny I'm on both lists and most of the time I don't even know which list I'm replying to !!!!- " robjstyle " <robjstyle Sunday, December 23, 2001 6:52 PM Re: looks like hell on > Ian McDonald wrote that *I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith > (who insults everyone, and > frequently doesn't mean it) complain.* > > Ms Edith sounds like she means everything she says about veganchat. > Or is it all some kind of *joke*? I just don't think it is very funny > and I can't understand why there should be such *hate* out there > between us when we all must share the same ideals about living > without animal suffering in our world. or am i just naive? > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 On Edith is thought as a sort of naughty puppy you know the sort that your still supposed to find very sweet even when it is biteing your leg. robjstyle <robjstyle wrote: Ian McDonald wrote that *I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith (who insults everyone, and > frequently doesn't mean it) complain.*Ms Edith sounds like she means everything she says about veganchat. Or is it all some kind of *joke*? I just don't think it is very funny and I can't understand why there should be such *hate* out there between us when we all must share the same ideals about living without animal suffering in our world. or am i just naive?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 robjstyle wrote: > > Ian McDonald wrote that *I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith > (who insults everyone, and > frequently doesn't mean it) complain.* > > Ms Edith sounds like she means everything she says about veganchat. I think she does. But I suspect she didn't mean the insults in the post that got her moderated. It's hard to tell with Edith . -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Hi Rob > Ms Edith sounds like she means everything she says about veganchat. > Or is it all some kind of *joke*? I just don't think it is very funny > and I can't understand why there should be such *hate* out there > between us when we all must share the same ideals about living > without animal suffering in our world. or am i just naive? I think the only person who would truly know that is Edith - but just to clarify, the fact that people don't always take it as a joke (you and me included) - whether it's intended to be or not - is why Edith was put on moderation on this list - I've been on other lists which have lost lots of members because of apparent insults which the insulters claimed to be jokes - one such list is now completely dead because those who haven't left won't dare to post anything! I'd also just like to be clear - I have no criticism at all about Vegan UK - just because I personally didn't find my time on it to be rewarding, does not mean that there is anything wrong with the list, and I'm happy that others can find enjoyment over there. As far as I'm concerned, the more outlets for vegans to chat together, the better :-) But I tend to agree with Jane - this discussion could easily turn into some sort of divisive tool between vegan chat and vegan UK - and as far as I can see, both lists are trying to achieve the same thing, just in slightly different ways - and it would look pretty daft to any lurking meat eaters (and there might well be some) if we expend our energy bashing each other rather than standing together for what we believe in :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 *Janey* says " The hostility against veganchat has nothing to do with me over on although I do susbscribe to that list, but I must say that I think bringing the subject up on veganchat is totally unnecessary. I hope you aren't trying to cause trouble " why the paranoia, Jane? Are people on veganchat not supposed to know what is being said on vegan UK? I am going to follow Jos advise and ask the moderator what the problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 In a message dated 12/24/01 11:08:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, angiewright writes: << Let me know when you find out I haven't noticed any problem and I'm on both Angie - " robjstyle " <robjstyle Monday, December 24, 2001 1:15 PM Re: looks like hell on > *Janey* says > > " The hostility against veganchat has nothing to do with me over on > although I do susbscribe to that list, but I must say that I > think bringing the subject up on veganchat is totally unnecessary. I > hope you aren't trying to cause trouble " > > why the paranoia, Jane? Are people on veganchat not supposed to know > what is being said on vegan UK? I am going to follow Jos advise and > ask the moderator what the problem is. > >> its probably cuz there are toooo many yanks on veganchat fer vagan UK's liking *actually has no idea wot is being talked about* fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 I'll try to conjure up that image of Edith next time she has a go at me. Hee hee! Nice description! She's normally harmless (I think!!!). Janey x - roy heath Monday, December 24, 2001 11:08 AM Re: Re: looks like hell on On Edith is thought as a sort of naughty puppy you know the sort that your still supposed to find very sweet even when it is biteing your leg. robjstyle <robjstyle wrote: Ian McDonald wrote that *I haven't noticed anyone other than Edith (who insults everyone, and > frequently doesn't mean it) complain.*Ms Edith sounds like she means everything she says about veganchat. Or is it all some kind of *joke*? I just don't think it is very funny and I can't understand why there should be such *hate* out there between us when we all must share the same ideals about living without animal suffering in our world. or am i just naive?To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 wot, you guys still upset that you lost us, and we spell things differently?? In a message dated 12/24/01 11:47:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, Heartwork writes: << Fraggle > its probably cuz there are toooo many yanks on veganchat fer vagan UK's liking > > *actually has no idea wot is being talked about* Unfortunately you could be right - it does happen - and I have no idea why. I'm pleased that you and our other American friends are here. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Let me know when you find out I haven't noticed any problem and I'm on both Angie - " robjstyle " <robjstyle Monday, December 24, 2001 1:15 PM Re: looks like hell on > *Janey* says > > " The hostility against veganchat has nothing to do with me over on > although I do susbscribe to that list, but I must say that I > think bringing the subject up on veganchat is totally unnecessary. I > hope you aren't trying to cause trouble " > > why the paranoia, Jane? Are people on veganchat not supposed to know > what is being said on vegan UK? I am going to follow Jos advise and > ask the moderator what the problem is. > > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Fraggle > its probably cuz there are toooo many yanks on veganchat fer vagan UK's liking > > *actually has no idea wot is being talked about* Unfortunately you could be right - it does happen - and I have no idea why. I'm pleased that you and our other American friends are here. Jo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 In a message dated 12/24/01 4:59:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, angiewright writes: << Oh no Is fraggle an American ? And he seemed such a nice chap!!!!! Angie >> *sticks tongue out* actually , i'm a beer elf..who just happened to have been born under a hop plant in california...... all i have to say is, you chaps had maggie thatcher..... *nods and skips away* fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Fraggle Ah yes the spelling - that could be an unsurmountable problem! (or should that be insurmountable?) Jo Monday, December 24, 2001 8:15 PM Re: Re: looks like hell on > wot, you guys still upset that you lost us, and we spell things differently?? > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 Oh no Is fraggle an American ? And he seemed such a nice chap!!!!! Angie - " Jo " <Heartwork Monday, December 24, 2001 7:40 PM Re: Re: looks like hell on > Fraggle > > > its probably cuz there are toooo many yanks on veganchat fer vagan UK's > liking > > > > *actually has no idea wot is being talked about* > > Unfortunately you could be right - it does happen - and I have no idea why. > I'm pleased that you and our other American friends are here. > > Jo > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 We sent you away !!!! and you spell things wrongly !!!!! Angie - <EBbrewpunx Monday, December 24, 2001 8:15 PM Re: Re: looks like hell on > wot, you guys still upset that you lost us, and we spell things differently?? > > > In a message dated 12/24/01 11:47:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Heartwork writes: > > << Fraggle > > > its probably cuz there are toooo many yanks on veganchat fer vagan UK's > liking > > > > *actually has no idea wot is being talked about* > > Unfortunately you could be right - it does happen - and I have no idea why. > I'm pleased that you and our other American friends are here. >> > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 Hi Fraggle > wot, you guys still upset that you lost us Aha - that was all part of the cunning plan to let you think you had independence.....*maniacal laugh* > and we spell things differently?? No you don't - we spell " things " exactly the same. Now, some of those words with tricky double vowels - like colour or aluminium :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 Hi Fraggle > all i have to say is, you chaps had maggie thatcher..... Now come on, Maggie Thatcher was a force of nature - it's like blaming Florida for getting hit by those tornados :-) And if we're trading dictators..... :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.306 / Virus Database: 166 - Release 04/12/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 In a message dated 12/25/01 2:21:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, Snowbow writes: < and we spell things differently?? No you don't - we spell " things " exactly the same. Now, some of those words with tricky double vowels - like colour or aluminium :-) >> and you kids spell it faerie, when obviously, its fairy...hahahhahaha anywho..i am now glad i deleted all those " hell on vegan uk " e-mails, cuz it does all seem a mite silly and such... peter, you are scum on earth? wow, i'd be honored, you are the creator of all life then, since early life was nuthin but scum and lipid bubbles.. *shakes yer psuedopod* fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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