Guest guest Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 sikhism started in the ..umm..16th century(???), and is not truly an offshoot of hinduism it is a monotheistic religion, like musilms, x-tians and judiasm sikhism took many of the different beliefs that were around in northern india at that time, be that muslim, hindi, parsee (zorasterism), buddhist, jainism, er any other i might be missing... vegetarianism and sikhism are not as ingrained( i don't think) as they are in hinduism i think its more of personal thing with sikh's, tho they are encouraged, from a karmic/spiritual persepctive sikhs are excluded fom eating halal or kosher meats...but that has to do with the foods being "sacrificed" to God er something like that... fraggle peter VV Dec 13, 2006 4:43 PM Re: Animals must not be scapegoats Thank you oh enlightened one, now then have we missed any others out? Sihkism ? or is it an offshoot of hinduism? The Valley Vegan...........fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: ask them what? vegetarianism is deeply embedded in their religion/culture it is a basic tenet of Vedic law/scriptures, and assorted myths/traditions/history it is a basis of Ahinsa then there is the karmic aspect... and there is something about..ok..let me get it all in line in me head... if one eats animals, then one takes in with that meal anger and assorted bad energies.. and meat and the culture of meat, contributes to violence plenty of Hindu scriptures deal with vegetarianism and many heroes/historical figures from hindi/india's past were veggie peter VV Dec 13, 2006 12:22 PM Re: Animals must not be scapegoats Maybe you could ask them? The Valley Vegan..........jo <jo.heartwork > wrote: I have some Hindu friends who are vegetarian. Jo ............ History repeats itself and each time the price gets higher Peter H Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there's a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged, and it is in such twilight that we must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness. William O. Douglas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 hi fraggle, the whole thing with religions is that people are culturized not to question. So is something makes sense fine, but if something else doesn't make sense that's fine too. To question is the worst crime in the world. How dare I question that this (any tradition) is not true. I think it is better if individuals think for themselves about what is right or wrong. That is more honest. Some catholic members of my family care about not eating animals only during Lent. Then, after that date on the calendar they can eat them again. :%( & I believe in the basic filosophy of Jainism, which is harm none. but, I am not going to go farther into their religion and think that a snake headed medusa ate her own son and then the son's head gave birth to twins (or any of the other tales my hindu friends tell me) I don't tell them this, I just respectfully nod and wonder if they believe this themselves. -anouk ikhism started in the ..umm..16th century(???), and is not truly an offshoot of hinduism it is a monotheistic religion, like musilms, x-tians and judiasm sikhism took many of the different beliefs that were around in northern india at that time, be that muslim, hindi, parsee (zorasterism), buddhist, jainism, er any other i might be missing... vegetarianism and sikhism are not as ingrained( i don't think) as they are in hinduism i think its more of personal thing with sikh's, tho they are encouraged, from a karmic/spiritual persepctive sikhs are excluded fom eating halal or kosher meats...but that has to do with the foods being " sacrificed " to God er something like that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 I think that the thing with religion, and with the creation of the earth and all the living things on it, including man, is that we don't know the answers. With regard to creation, we can look at available evidence and come up with theories, but we are far away from really knowing the answers. As far as religion goes, I don't think we can ever (in this life anyway) know the truth. There are reasons why I believe what I believe that are personal, based on my own experiences. Still, I do have questions. I am with Anouk on some of the things that are in the Bible. For example, when the Jews entered the Promised Land and God told them to destroy all the people who were already living there. If I read that as history, I have a hard time with it for sure. But if I read it as allegory ... well, what it tells me is that when we enter into our spiritual promised land, we need to destroy or drive out those things in our lives which will cause us to stumble. Do I question? Oh yes, I question lots of things. But if I didn't have questions, if I knew all the answers, I think I would not have faith, I would have knowledge. As the Bible says, "Now we see in a mirror darkly ... now we know in part ...." I think my advice for anybody who is seeking to know God is to ask God to reveal himself. And I'm sorry if the personal pronouns offend you, Anouk, but I can't think of another way to put it. If God is real in any form, surely that prayer will be honored. And if not ... well, you've got nothing to lose, right? peace, sharoner child <zurumato wrote: hi fraggle, the whole thing with religions is that people are culturized not to question. So is something makes sensefine, but if something else doesn't make sense that's finetoo. To question is the worst crime in the world. How dare I question that this (any tradition) is not true. I think it is better if individuals think for themselves about what is right or wrong. That is more honest. Some catholic members of my family care about not eating animalsonly during Lent. Then, after that date on the calendarthey can eat them again. :%( & I believe in the basic filosophy of Jainism, which is harm none. but, I am not going to go farther into their religion and think that a snake headed medusa ate her own son and then the son's head gavebirth to twins (or any of the other tales my hindu friends tell me)I don't tell them this, I just respectfully nod and wonder ifthey believe this themselves. -anouk ikhism started in the ..umm..16th century(???), and is not truly anoffshoot of hinduismit is a monotheistic religion, like musilms, x-tians and judiasmsikhism took many of the different beliefs that were around innorthern india at that time, be that muslim, hindi, parsee(zorasterism), buddhist, jainism, er any other i might be missing...vegetarianism and sikhism are not as ingrained( i don't think) as theyare in hinduismi think its more of personal thing with sikh's, tho they areencouraged, from a karmic/spiritual persepctivesikhs are excluded fom eating halal or kosher meats...but that has todo with the foods being "sacrificed" to God er something like that... Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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