Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 I have only been a vegetarian (now going Vegan) a short time with an occasional slip when nothing else was available to eat. Apple B's has nothing vegetarian that I could see and that's where everyone wanted to eat so I choose the grilled salmon I need some restaurant tips for sure! We ate out at a very nice Japanese restaurant a week or so ago and I had a very nice meal. I felt almost attacked by the other people around the table, however. I didn't make an issue of what I ordered but was questioned by people. One lady asked " So you don't eat ANY meat? " I said no I don't..... and then she said " So you just ate vegetables grilled on the same grill as meat was cooked! " I really didn't know what to say as I am a fairly new vegetarian and haven't read up enough yet I guess????? I said to her I was eating vegetarian for health reasons not political reasons. My vegetable were actually grilled almost first. The chef cooked the shrimp and then my vegetables. I really didn't know what to say..... I have actually decided to go Vegan after reading The China Study recently. This same lady also stated she didn't eat meat that had 4 legs.... she eats fish and chicken. My question is or request actually..... Can anyone recommend any good books for becoming a vegan? How to respond to people, recipes, ect.... People (including relatives)are making me feel like I am doing something strange and they are making this very difficult for me. I joined this list because I think I need some education on the life style that I have chosen. -- Best regards, Vicki vickisdesigns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 welcome and greetings vicki first off, may we inquire as to where you hail form? any chain restaurants, its prolly a good idea to steer clear of... apple b's uses lotsa meat products in almost everything, like chicken flavoring... my main thing to say is, go slow ask questions.. don;t get discouraged... figure out what you want, and why.... vegetarianism/veganism is a long learning experience, and its a lifetime.... we are always discovering new things... all about growing, right? ack..i sound like a hippie anyways... books how it all vegan by sarah kramer food revolution by john robbins everyday vegan simply vegan there are literally thousands of books out there... wot are you interested in? knowledge? recipes? if recipes, wot sorta food do you like? cheers fraggle >Vicki Becker <vickisdesigns >Jun 16, 2006 7:29 AM > > Newbie Questions > >I have only been a vegetarian (now going Vegan) a short time with an occasional slip >when nothing else was available to eat. Apple B's has nothing >vegetarian that I could see and that's where everyone wanted to eat so >I choose the grilled salmon I need some restaurant tips for sure! > >We ate out at a very nice Japanese restaurant a week or so ago and I >had a very nice meal. I felt almost attacked by the other people >around the table, however. I didn't make an issue of what I ordered >but was questioned by people. One lady asked " So you don't eat ANY >meat? " I said no I don't..... and then she said " So you just ate >vegetables grilled on the same grill as meat was cooked! " I really >didn't know what to say as I am a fairly new vegetarian and haven't >read up enough yet I guess????? I said to her I was eating vegetarian >for health reasons not political reasons. My vegetable were actually >grilled almost first. The chef cooked the shrimp and then my >vegetables. I really didn't know what to say..... I have actually >decided to go Vegan after reading The China Study recently. This same >lady also stated she didn't eat meat that had 4 legs.... she eats fish >and chicken. > >My question is or request actually..... Can anyone recommend any good >books for becoming a vegan? How to respond to people, recipes, ect.... People >(including relatives)are making me feel like I am doing something >strange and they are making this very difficult for me. > >I joined this list because I think I need some education on the life >style that I have chosen. > > > > > > >-- >Best regards, > Vicki vickisdesigns > > > > >To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Wot flossy said. The Valley Vegan..............fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: welcome and greetings vickifirst off, may we inquire as to where you hail form?any chain restaurants, its prolly a good idea to steer clear of...apple b's uses lotsa meat products in almost everything, like chicken flavoring...my main thing to say is, go slowask questions..don;t get discouraged...figure out what you want, and why....vegetarianism/veganism is a long learning experience, and its a lifetime....we are always discovering new things...all about growing, right?ack..i sound like a hippieanyways...bookshow it all vegan by sarah kramerfood revolution by john robbinseveryday vegansimply veganthere are literally thousands of books out there...wot are you interested in? knowledge? recipes? if recipes, wot sorta food do you like?cheersfraggle>Vicki Becker >Jun 16, 2006 7:29 AM> > Newbie Questions>>I have only been a vegetarian (now going Vegan) a short time with an occasional slip>when nothing else was available to eat. Apple B's has nothing>vegetarian that I could see and that's where everyone wanted to eat so>I choose the grilled salmon I need some restaurant tips for sure!>>We ate out at a very nice Japanese restaurant a week or so ago and I>had a very nice meal. I felt almost attacked by the other people>around the table, however. I didn't make an issue of what I ordered>but was questioned by people. One lady asked "So you don't eat ANY>meat?" I said no I don't..... and then she said "So you just ate>vegetables grilled on the same grill as meat was cooked!" I really>didn't know what to say as I am a fairly new vegetarian and haven't>read up enough yet I guess????? I said to her I was eating vegetarian>for health reasons not political reasons. My vegetable were actually>grilled almost first. The chef cooked the shrimp and then my>vegetables. I really didn't know what to say..... I have actually>decided to go Vegan after reading The China Study recently. This same>lady also stated she didn't eat meat that had 4 legs.... she eats fish>and chicken.>>My question is or request actually..... Can anyone recommend any good>books for becoming a vegan? How to respond to people, recipes, ect.... People>(including relatives)are making me feel like I am doing something>strange and they are making this very difficult for me.>>I joined this list because I think I need some education on the life>style that I have chosen.>> >>> >>-- >Best regards,> Vicki vickisdesigns>>>>To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Welcome Vicki, I guess you hail from across the water? dont be discouraged, take a higher moral path and feel better for it. You will get nothin but support from us on here. Feel free to ask us anything....shoe size, favourite smells, how heavy a years production of belly button fluff weighs? we can answer them all. On a serious note, eat before you go out that way if you and your mates go out for the night and you cant eat anything without a face, then at least you wont be hungry. I sometimes carry snacks in my pockets, little vegan bars,packets of nuts etc.......my wife is a carnie ( no she doesnt work the ghost train ), and my kids are only vegie not vegan............so a lot of the time they want to stop at pizza hate or the likes, and I go without, but it doesnt bother me none, because I wont deprive them as believe in live and let live. I hate people who are preachy so I dont preach to others. I still get the piss taken out of me in work, but I`m used to it now. There are trillions of books out there, unfortunately I dont know if they are available over thar............ The Valley Vegan.............Vicki Becker <vickisdesigns wrote: I have only been a vegetarian (now going Vegan) a short time with an occasional slipwhen nothing else was available to eat. Apple B's has nothingvegetarian that I could see and that's where everyone wanted to eat soI choose the grilled salmon I need some restaurant tips for sure!We ate out at a very nice Japanese restaurant a week or so ago and Ihad a very nice meal. I felt almost attacked by the other peoplearound the table, however. I didn't make an issue of what I orderedbut was questioned by people. One lady asked "So you don't eat ANYmeat?" I said no I don't..... and then she said "So you just atevegetables grilled on the same grill as meat was cooked!" I reallydidn't know what to say as I am a fairly new vegetarian and haven'tread up enough yet I guess????? I said to her I was eating vegetarianfor health reasons not political reasons. My vegetable were actuallygrilled almost first. The chef cooked the shrimp and then myvegetables. I really didn't know what to say..... I have actuallydecided to go Vegan after reading The China Study recently. This samelady also stated she didn't eat meat that had 4 legs.... she eats fishand chicken.My question is or request actually..... Can anyone recommend any goodbooks for becoming a vegan? How to respond to people, recipes, ect.... People(including relatives)are making me feel like I am doing somethingstrange and they are making this very difficult for me.I joined this list because I think I need some education on the lifestyle that I have chosen.-- Best regards,Vicki vickisdesigns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Hi Vicki Welcome to Vegan Chat. Don't feel too upset. Everyone makes mistakes. It is difficult to start with, but becomes easier as you go along. I don't know any books that would help but I am sure people on here will be able to chat about all the problems you encounter. Jo - " Vicki Becker " <vickisdesigns Friday, June 16, 2006 3:29 PM Newbie Questions > I have only been a vegetarian (now going Vegan) a short time with an occasional slip > when nothing else was available to eat. Apple B's has nothing > vegetarian that I could see and that's where everyone wanted to eat so > I choose the grilled salmon I need some restaurant tips for sure! > > We ate out at a very nice Japanese restaurant a week or so ago and I > had a very nice meal. I felt almost attacked by the other people > around the table, however. I didn't make an issue of what I ordered > but was questioned by people. One lady asked " So you don't eat ANY > meat? " I said no I don't..... and then she said " So you just ate > vegetables grilled on the same grill as meat was cooked! " I really > didn't know what to say as I am a fairly new vegetarian and haven't > read up enough yet I guess????? I said to her I was eating vegetarian > for health reasons not political reasons. My vegetable were actually > grilled almost first. The chef cooked the shrimp and then my > vegetables. I really didn't know what to say..... I have actually > decided to go Vegan after reading The China Study recently. This same > lady also stated she didn't eat meat that had 4 legs.... she eats fish > and chicken. > > My question is or request actually..... Can anyone recommend any good > books for becoming a vegan? How to respond to people, recipes, ect.... People > (including relatives)are making me feel like I am doing something > strange and they are making this very difficult for me. > > I joined this list because I think I need some education on the life > style that I have chosen. -- > Best regards, > Vicki vickisdesigns > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hi Vicki and WELCOME! I'm sure you have received a lot of answers by now so I will keep mine short. > I have only been a vegetarian (now going Vegan) a short time with an occasional slip > when nothing else was available to eat. Apple B's has nothing > vegetarian that I could see and that's where everyone wanted to eat so > I choose the grilled salmon I need some restaurant tips for sure! See now I would have chosen a salad with Italian dressing or not eaten at all. But everyone has to make their own choices. I just could never eat non-Vegan food again. Depending what restaurant you are at, you can also ask for a baked potato with the salad, but no butter. If they serve pasta, ask for pasta without butter and cheese and request that they toss it with olive oil instead. Or maybe they have a maranara sauce if it is an Italian restaurant. Personally I like it with the olive oil and some basil. > We ate out at a very nice Japanese restaurant a week or so ago and I > had a very nice meal. I felt almost attacked by the other people > around the table, however. I didn't make an issue of what I ordered > but was questioned by people. One lady asked " So you don't eat ANY > meat? " I said no I don't..... and then she said " So you just ate > vegetables grilled on the same grill as meat was cooked! " I really > didn't know what to say as I am a fairly new vegetarian and haven't > read up enough yet I guess????? I said to her I was eating vegetarian > for health reasons not political reasons. My vegetable were actually > grilled almost first. The chef cooked the shrimp and then my > vegetables. I really didn't know what to say..... I have actually > decided to go Vegan after reading The China Study recently. This same > lady also stated she didn't eat meat that had 4 legs.... she eats fish > and chicken. Never let someone else influence you. That is the hardest thing. But who are they to say how you live your life? If someone gets too agressive with me I ask them why they think it is ok to poison themselves and those that they love with the chemicals injected into animal products. But you do need to arm yourself with research and information before doing this. Because they will ask questions. One of my fav answers to these types of questions too, which is easy to talk about, is letting them know that it takes 7 pounds of grain to produce 1 pound of beef. With the amount of starving people in the world, I am doing my part to help them survive. Not to mention protecting the earth. > > My question is or request actually..... Can anyone recommend any good > books for becoming a vegan? How to respond to people, recipes, ect.... People > (including relatives)are making me feel like I am doing something > strange and they are making this very difficult for me. There are a ton of them out there, but I will wait to see what everyone else has recommended because they are probably the ones that they recommended to me when I first became a Vegan. > I joined this list because I think I need some education on the life > style that I have chosen. You've come to the right place! Please don't be afraid to ask questions and give opinions. This is a great list with alot of helpful people on it. They do tend to be a little weird too though just to warn you. Nikki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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