Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 heh...ya missed those posts i guess... whole food carries veg dog food..so i'd check there er online http://www.veggiepets.com/ http://www.ehow.com/buy_14147_vegetarian-dog-food.html http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/petfood-comm.html Jonnie Hellens Dec 6, 2005 9:08 AM Re: Re: Sense of proportion I have a large dog and would like to change him to vegetarian food, but have heard that they really aren't supposed to be vegetarian. He's 12 yo and is only now showing some of his age, but doing even better than I am! He's always had a sensitive stomach, so I have to watch what I feed him otherwise I'm cleaning something off the carpet from one end or the other (If I can't get the door and gate open fast enuf). He loves my food though and used to eat anything. Now he's gotten picky, he'll eat oranges, but not potatoes anymore, etc. Anyone have a recommendation for vegetarian dog food for him? And where would I find it?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: don't forget the flea collars added in as well.... linda Dec 5, 2005 9:24 AM Re: Re: Sense of proportion One of the things that absolutely horrifies me is the fact that in pet food are the remains of shelter animals that have been euthanized and it is legit. Shelters contract to have these animals picked up, they are sold to pet food manufacturers. This is known because tests on pet foods have shown traces of the medications that they use to put the animal to sleep. This is in the US of course, don't know about anywhere else, but it is a proven fact here. linda "Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it."Mohandas Gandhi linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47 - herbvalerian Monday, December 05, 2005 7:46 AM Re: Sense of proportion I agree. Also the meat most humans in the West eat is disguised to pretend its something else, shrink wrapped and not smelling of anything except plastic. Who has actually gone out and shot an animal and then brought it home and gutted it and skinned it? Very few, and I would say those are more honest meat eaters than those who browse the shrink wrapped sanitised supermarket shelves. The other issue is that most of the poor factory farmed creature is thrown in the bin at the abbatoir. The meat eating public don't even eat it all, just the convenient- to cook bits. , "linda" <lindai81@c...> wrote:>> Those animals are obligate carnivores, we aren't. They have no choice, we do. They don't lock up their prey from birth until they kill them never allowing them to live a life, brutalizing them every single day of their short life. You are right those obligate carnivores do kill and eat other animals. There is absolutely no comparison between an animal doing what is natural and what we do to get our meat. Sense of proportion? I am going to have to work on that one 'cause it flies right over my head. Brutality on the factory farms? Oh, hey, keep a sense of proportion...they are just pigs, chickens, cows, etc. Would you like to justify that too with the "sense of proportion" argument? Gosh, China skins cats alive to put fur on clothing, then they mislabel it and ship it to the U.S. But hey, what the heck, their culture finds nothing offensive in that. Have a sense of proportion. Where do you draw the line? With this sense of proportion why would anyone want to be in a Vegan room?> linda> "Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it."> Mohandas Gandhi> > jo > I always think it wise to keep a sense of porportion. One of the things I> can never understand is that some people love cats, birds of prey, tigers> etc. who kill and eat other animals, but cannot forgive humans for doing the> same.>To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 Thanks! I'm down to 1200 msg to read and I don't want my friend to die of old age b4 I come upon that msg! :)fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: heh...ya missed those posts i guess... whole food carries veg dog food..so i'd check there er online http://www.veggiepets.com/ http://www.ehow.com/buy_14147_vegetarian-dog-food.html http://www.all-creatures.org/articles/petfood-comm.html Jonnie Hellens Dec 6, 2005 9:08 AM To: Re: Re: Sense of proportion I have a large dog and would like to change him to vegetarian food, but have heard that they really aren't supposed to be vegetarian. He's 12 yo and is only now showing some of his age, but doing even better than I am! He's always had a sensitive stomach, so I have to watch what I feed him otherwise I'm cleaning something off the carpet from one end or the other (If I can't get the door and gate open fast enuf). He loves my food though and used to eat anything. Now he's gotten picky, he'll eat oranges, but not potatoes anymore, etc. Anyone have a recommendation for vegetarian dog food for him? And where would I find it?fraggle <EBbrewpunx wrote: don't forget the flea collars added in as well.... linda Dec 5, 2005 9:24 AM Re: Re: Sense of proportion One of the things that absolutely horrifies me is the fact that in pet food are the remains of shelter animals that have been euthanized and it is legit. Shelters contract to have these animals picked up, they are sold to pet food manufacturers. This is known because tests on pet foods have shown traces of the medications that they use to put the animal to sleep. This is in the US of course, don't know about anywhere else, but it is a proven fact here. linda "Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it."Mohandas Gandhi linda's Growing Stitchery Projects: womyn47 - herbvalerian Monday, December 05, 2005 7:46 AM Re: Sense of proportion I agree. Also the meat most humans in the West eat is disguised to pretend its something else, shrink wrapped and not smelling of anything except plastic. Who has actually gone out and shot an animal and then brought it home and gutted it and skinned it? Very few, and I would say those are more honest meat eaters than those who browse the shrink wrapped sanitised supermarket shelves. The other issue is that most of the poor factory farmed creature is thrown in the bin at the abbatoir. The meat eating public don't even eat it all, just the convenient- to cook bits. , "linda" <lindai81@c...> wrote:>> Those animals are obligate carnivores, we aren't. They have no choice, we do. They don't lock up their prey from birth until they kill them never allowing them to live a life, brutalizing them every single day of their short life. You are right those obligate carnivores do kill and eat other animals. There is absolutely no comparison between an animal doing what is natural and what we do to get our meat. Sense of proportion? I am going to have to work on that one 'cause it flies right over my head. Brutality on the factory farms? Oh, hey, keep a sense of proportion...they are just pigs, chickens, cows, etc. Would you like to justify that too with the "sense of proportion" argument? Gosh, China skins cats alive to put fur on clothing, then they mislabel it and ship it to the U.S. But hey, what the heck, their culture finds nothing offensive in that. Have a sense of proportion. Where do you draw the line? With this sense of proportion why would anyone want to be in a Vegan room?> linda> "Whatever you do will be insignificant and it is very important that you do it."> Mohandas Gandhi> > jo > I always think it wise to keep a sense of porportion. One of the things I> can never understand is that some people love cats, birds of prey, tigers> etc. who kill and eat other animals, but cannot forgive humans for doing the> same.>To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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