Guest guest Posted August 25, 2005 Report Share Posted August 25, 2005 Tallest wind farm plan approved The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metresControversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was "appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines". The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said "The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. "There would be a major impact on tourism in the area," she added. Protest The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. There were shouts of "shame" from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. It was the first application to be approved within one of the "TAN 8" areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. Peter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 What are your thoughts on it Peter? Jo , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > Tallest wind farm plan approved > > The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metres > > Controversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. > More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. > But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. > It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. > The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was " appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines " . > The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said " The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. > " There would be a major impact on tourism in the area, " she added. > Protest > The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. > Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. > There were shouts of " shame " from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. > But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. > It was the first application to be approved within one of the " TAN 8 " areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Personally, I think that it will take a long time to replace the energy expended on the project to be generated by these turbines, and they kill birds ( alledgedly ), make a constatnt noise ( albiet a low swishy noise ), and local residents main argument against always seems to be that they are spoiling the landscape? I dont buy into that, I think they are very attractive, hell we used to have hundreds of windmills a century or so ago.I would rather have wind farms than nuclear power any day of the week, same with polluting fossil fuel power stations. Plus the locals shouldnt realy complain as they benefit short term with jobs, and long term they may not need a power station on their doorstep?, and as to an effect on tourism, well it may just be an attraction until the novelty effect wears off. The Valey Vegan........ http://www.bwea.com/ukwed/heartwerk <heartwork wrote: What are your thoughts on it Peter?Jo , peter hurd wrote:> > Tallest wind farm plan approved > > The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metres> > Controversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. > More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. > But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. > It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. > The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was "appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines". > The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said "The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. > "There would be a major impact on tourism in the area," she added. > Protest > The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. > Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. > There were shouts of "shame" from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. > But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. > It was the first application to be approved within one of the "TAN 8" areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I think they are a good idea - and as you say we have had windmills before - now people travel for miles to see them. I just wondered how you felt as it was nearer you than me. Jo - peter hurd Friday, August 26, 2005 8:24 AM Re: Re: Wales leads the UK in wind farms Personally, I think that it will take a long time to replace the energy expended on the project to be generated by these turbines, and they kill birds ( alledgedly ), make a constatnt noise ( albiet a low swishy noise ), and local residents main argument against always seems to be that they are spoiling the landscape? I dont buy into that, I think they are very attractive, hell we used to have hundreds of windmills a century or so ago.I would rather have wind farms than nuclear power any day of the week, same with polluting fossil fuel power stations. Plus the locals shouldnt realy complain as they benefit short term with jobs, and long term they may not need a power station on their doorstep?, and as to an effect on tourism, well it may just be an attraction until the novelty effect wears off. The Valey Vegan........ http://www.bwea.com/ukwed/heartwerk <heartwork wrote: What are your thoughts on it Peter?Jo , peter hurd wrote:> > Tallest wind farm plan approved > > The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metres> > Controversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. > More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. > But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. > It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. > The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was "appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines". > The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said "The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. > "There would be a major impact on tourism in the area," she added. > Protest > The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. > Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. > There were shouts of "shame" from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. > But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. > It was the first application to be approved within one of the "TAN 8" areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Near Palm Springs, Calif, there are a bunch of windmills. I used to enjoy seeing them and when I took my son for his heart surgery we made a big deal out of them. Why they were there, how they benefitted the environment, etc.peter hurd <swpgh01 wrote: Personally, I think that it will take a long time to replace the energy expended on the project to be generated by these turbines, and they kill birds ( alledgedly ), make a constatnt noise ( albiet a low swishy noise ), and local residents main argument against always seems to be that they are spoiling the landscape? I dont buy into that, I think they are very attractive, hell we used to have hundreds of windmills a century or so ago.I would rather have wind farms than nuclear power any day of the week, same with polluting fossil fuel power stations. Plus the locals shouldnt realy complain as they benefit short term with jobs, and long term they may not need a power station on their doorstep?, and as to an effect on tourism, well it may just be an attraction until the novelty effect wears off. The Valey Vegan........ http://www.bwea.com/ukwed/heartwerk <heartwork wrote: What are your thoughts on it Peter?Jo , peter hurd wrote:> > Tallest wind farm plan approved > > The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metres> > Controversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. > More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. > But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. > It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. > The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was "appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines". > The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said "The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. > "There would be a major impact on tourism in the area," she added. > Protest > The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. > Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. > There were shouts of "shame" from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. > But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. > It was the first application to be approved within one of the "TAN 8" areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 In my country, not near though so will not affect me. No doubt the electricity produced will go to England, just like our water from our resevoirs! The Valley Vegan.........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: I think they are a good idea - and as you say we have had windmills before - now people travel for miles to see them. I just wondered how you felt as it was nearer you than me. Jo - peter hurd Friday, August 26, 2005 8:24 AM Re: Re: Wales leads the UK in wind farms Personally, I think that it will take a long time to replace the energy expended on the project to be generated by these turbines, and they kill birds ( alledgedly ), make a constatnt noise ( albiet a low swishy noise ), and local residents main argument against always seems to be that they are spoiling the landscape? I dont buy into that, I think they are very attractive, hell we used to have hundreds of windmills a century or so ago.I would rather have wind farms than nuclear power any day of the week, same with polluting fossil fuel power stations. Plus the locals shouldnt realy complain as they benefit short term with jobs, and long term they may not need a power station on their doorstep?, and as to an effect on tourism, well it may just be an attraction until the novelty effect wears off. The Valey Vegan........ http://www.bwea.com/ukwed/heartwerk <heartwork wrote: What are your thoughts on it Peter?Jo , peter hurd wrote:> > Tallest wind farm plan approved > > The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metres> > Controversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. > More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. > But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. > It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. > The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was "appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines". > The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said "The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. > "There would be a major impact on tourism in the area," she added. > Protest > The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. > Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. > There were shouts of "shame" from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. > But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. > It was the first application to be approved within one of the "TAN 8" areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I don't really want to get started on this again - but money goes the other way from our taxes. Jo - peter hurd Friday, August 26, 2005 8:28 PM Re: Re: Wales leads the UK in wind farms In my country, not near though so will not affect me. No doubt the electricity produced will go to England, just like our water from our resevoirs! The Valley Vegan.........Jo Cwazy <heartwork wrote: I think they are a good idea - and as you say we have had windmills before - now people travel for miles to see them. I just wondered how you felt as it was nearer you than me. Jo - peter hurd Friday, August 26, 2005 8:24 AM Re: Re: Wales leads the UK in wind farms Personally, I think that it will take a long time to replace the energy expended on the project to be generated by these turbines, and they kill birds ( alledgedly ), make a constatnt noise ( albiet a low swishy noise ), and local residents main argument against always seems to be that they are spoiling the landscape? I dont buy into that, I think they are very attractive, hell we used to have hundreds of windmills a century or so ago.I would rather have wind farms than nuclear power any day of the week, same with polluting fossil fuel power stations. Plus the locals shouldnt realy complain as they benefit short term with jobs, and long term they may not need a power station on their doorstep?, and as to an effect on tourism, well it may just be an attraction until the novelty effect wears off. The Valey Vegan........ http://www.bwea.com/ukwed/heartwerk <heartwork wrote: What are your thoughts on it Peter?Jo , peter hurd wrote:> > Tallest wind farm plan approved > > The turbines will be the tallest in Wales at 110 metres> > Controversial plans for a set of 110m high wind turbines in Carmarthenshire have been given the go-ahead. > More than 100 people had written to the council backing the scheme to build 10 turbines on Mynydd Llanllwni above the Brechfa Forest. > But around twice as many had objected to the proposal. > It was passed by the county's planning committee at a meeting on Thursday, despite claims it would have a major adverse effect on the landscape. > The Brechfa Forest Action group said it was "appalled by the apparent disregard of recent evidence of the health effects of the sound coming from Scotland and from residents living near the Blaen Bowl turbines". > The group's coordinator Caroline Evans said "The council's own policies are supposed to protect us, ensuring no effect on the quality of local environment. > "There would be a major impact on tourism in the area," she added. > Protest > The application from Catamount of Vermont was for 10 turbines, each measuring 110.5m (363 feet), which would make them the tallest turbines in Wales. The current tallest are at Cefn Croes in Ceredigion at 99.7m. > Councillors visited the Blaen Bowl wind farm in Carmarthenshire, where the turbines rise to a height of 76m, before visiting the proposed site at Blaengwen Farm. > There were shouts of "shame" from the public gallery as the scheme was approved. > But local farmers also present at the meeting said the wind farm would throw them an economic lifeline through rental income from having them on their land. > It was the first application to be approved within one of the "TAN 8" areas, which are the Welsh Assembly Government's preferred places for wind farm developments. > > > > > Peter H > > > > > Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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