Your imput please

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I didn't say that using the word Holocaust *means* Nazi. I said it has the same effect on conversations as bringing in the comparision to Nazis or Hitler.

 

You aren't hearing what I am saying about conversation. And what I was saying wasn't about you specifically, it was a means of explaining. That's o.k.

 

Lynda

 

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lv2breathe

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Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:23 AM

Re: Re: Your imput please

 

 

Lynda

 

I don't see how using the word Holocaust means Nazi. They are related but different things. Why should the mere mention of Holocaust automatically be offensive? It is a historical fact, it happened. Just by mentioning it I am not calling anyone a Nazi per se.

 

As for your other reasoning...I do drive a car (have to where I am or I have little life)...but I DON'T DENY global warming or the negative effects of cars. I also don't deny, and have voiced my opinion to my representatives a lot, the negative effects on labor for globalization even though I have purchased items from China (impossible to avoid these days, really).

 

The difference between my friend and me is that I don't deny the effects of my actions where she did. I may not do everything perfect, but I do try to make a difference, where she spends her energy denying everything so she doesn't have to do a thing.

 

Just because one's life is not perfectly green does not make them a hypocrite. If the sincerity is there and they are doing their best, then they are not a hypocrite.

 

Soliel

 

 

 

 

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I'll also add to this - because this thread's become about the use of confrontational analogies in activist discourse, not Soleil's original online experience, which was in many ways much more specific - drawing a parallel between her friend claiming that pictures of animal suffering are fake and those of a holocaust-denying person claiming that pictures of Auschwitz were fake.

 

So, I also hope Soleil doesn't think that all my comments are about here, despite the fact that - as I've said - I think she could have handled the situation better if she'd wanted to. But then I think we've all had the occasional conversation to which that applies....:-)

 

Cheers

 

Mike

 

 

On Behalf Of Lynda06 August 2005 22:21 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Your imput please

 

I didn't say that using the word Holocaust *means* Nazi. I said it has the same effect on conversations as bringing in the comparision to Nazis or Hitler.

 

You aren't hearing what I am saying about conversation. And what I was saying wasn't about you specifically, it was a means of explaining. That's o.k.

 

Lynda

 

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lv2breathe

Cc: Lv2breathe

Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:23 AM

Re: Re: Your imput please

 

 

Lynda

 

I don't see how using the word Holocaust means Nazi. They are related but different things. Why should the mere mention of Holocaust automatically be offensive? It is a historical fact, it happened. Just by mentioning it I am not calling anyone a Nazi per se.

 

As for your other reasoning...I do drive a car (have to where I am or I have little life)...but I DON'T DENY global warming or the negative effects of cars. I also don't deny, and have voiced my opinion to my representatives a lot, the negative effects on labor for globalization even though I have purchased items from China (impossible to avoid these days, really).

 

The difference between my friend and me is that I don't deny the effects of my actions where she did. I may not do everything perfect, but I do try to make a difference, where she spends her energy denying everything so she doesn't have to do a thing.

 

Just because one's life is not perfectly green does not make them a hypocrite. If the sincerity is there and they are doing their best, then they are not a hypocrite.

 

Soliel