Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 I will find the Hare Krishna book that stated this. Your post shows to me the kind of attitude I was talking about. It's OK, though. Do as you wish. Kristina In a message dated 1/12/05 5:33:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, writes: Message: 7 Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:19:09 -0000 "Peter" <metalscarabRe: Re: Re: Re: Ghandi's vegetarianismHi Kristina> Have you ever read any of their books? Do you have idea of what they are saying? Before you do...it is wise to not assume it is> false.To beat Jo to it... both Jo and I used to practice meditation with a Hare Krishna group (I went for about a year, I believe Jo still goes some 4 or 5 years on). I think it's fair to say that we both have a pretty good grasp on Kare Krishna beliefs! I tend to think that experience makes you far more knowledgable about a religion than reading a book about it.> There are many things in this universe we don't know about that we must stay open to.I agree with that - but I have yet to come across any documented case of a mammal lactating without first being pregnant. I can't help thinking that if it happened frequently with Hare Krishna cows, there would be some significant scientific investigation into the phenomena, and a considerable amount of non-Hare Krishna documentation. Perhaps you could point me to a veterinary journal which has published something on it?From my experience of Hare Krishna bovine welfare, they do impregnate the cows, but do not slaughter the offspring (or at least that is what they claim). I have never met a Hare Krishna practitioner who has stated that the cows do not need to be impregnated in order to lactate (and, as I say, I have considerable experience of Hare Krishna's, and have discussed the milk issue with them).> I am sorry to say this...but so many vegans are so attached on vegan dogma they can't bend.I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. The word "vegan" has a particular definition. That definition is not attached to any moral or ethical standpoint. To suggest that we should "bend" the meaning of the word in order to fit one particular ethical view is a bit like saying we should use the term "smoker" to refer only to those people who smoke cigarettes as opposed to cigars or pipes. It would be nonsense.I also think you should bear in mind that the ethical standpoint of every individual is unique - if your ethical standpoint makes someone a vegan, they are a vegan, if it does not, then they are not.BBPeter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Kristina There is an old saying... " he who strikes first admits that his argument has given out " . I mention this, because your below post is not what I consider polite, and is clearly intended to " get a rise " out of me. I am not interested in playing psychological games, thank you. BB Peter , lv2breathe@a... wrote: > > I will find the Hare Krishna book that stated this. > > Your post shows to me the kind of attitude I was talking about. > > It's OK, though. Do as you wish. > > Kristina > > > In a message dated 1/12/05 5:33:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, > writes: > > Message: 7 > Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:19:09 -0000 > " Peter " <metalscarab@b...> > Re: Re: Re: Re: Ghandi's vegetarianism > > Hi Kristina > > > Have you ever read any of their books? Do you have idea of what they are > saying? Before you do...it is wise to not assume it is > > false. > > To beat Jo to it... both Jo and I used to practice meditation with a Hare > Krishna group (I went for about a year, I believe Jo still goes some 4 or 5 > years on). I think it's fair to say that we both have a pretty good grasp on > Kare Krishna beliefs! I tend to think that experience makes you far more > knowledgable about a religion than reading a book about it. > > > There are many things in this universe we don't know about that we must > stay open to. > > I agree with that - but I have yet to come across any documented case of a > mammal lactating without first being pregnant. I can't help thinking that if > it happened frequently with Hare Krishna cows, there would be some significant > scientific investigation into the phenomena, and a considerable amount of > non-Hare Krishna documentation. Perhaps you could point me to a veterinary > journal which has published something on it? > > From my experience of Hare Krishna bovine welfare, they do impregnate the > cows, but do not slaughter the offspring (or at least that is what they claim). > I have never met a Hare Krishna practitioner who has stated that the cows do > not need to be impregnated in order to lactate (and, as I say, I have > considerable experience of Hare Krishna's, and have discussed the milk issue with > them). > > > I am sorry to say this...but so many vegans are so attached on vegan dogma > they can't bend. > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. The word " vegan " has a particular > definition. That definition is not attached to any moral or ethical > standpoint. To suggest that we should " bend " the meaning of the word in order to fit > one particular ethical view is a bit like saying we should use the term > " smoker " to refer only to those people who smoke cigarettes as opposed to cigars or > pipes. It would be nonsense. > > I also think you should bear in mind that the ethical standpoint of every > individual is unique - if your ethical standpoint makes someone a vegan, they > are a vegan, if it does not, then they are not. > > BB > Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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