Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Hi, my name is Bruce and I am a newbie here. I very often follow a vegan diet and do so for health reasons. I smoked for many years. I no longer smoke but I am still in the higher risk group for lung cancer due to having smoked for so long. I want any edge I can get and diet is the cheapest and probably the most useful for prevention, besides not using tobacco. I also know of the environmental benefits from a more plant based diet, so I have that reason too. But guilt is not my motive for being vegan. Animals kill animals everyday for food and that is their nature, the way they are made. More often than not I find myself challenged and even rejected by others for being vegetarian, no matter the health reasons I have. I know ministers who claim it is all a matter of Providence. That minister is incompetent I think. I lose all patience with healthcare people who are uninformed about health benefits from diets that limit or exclude animal source foods. I know one who claims religious reasons for her animal protein based diet...this is why the animals were made...to kill and eat. I think she too is incompetent in her field and indifferent to nutrition knowledge. I am interested in why people here are vegan or vegetarian. Thanks. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 - " Bruce " <asanamale Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:50 PM reasons > > > > Hi, my name is Bruce and I am a newbie here. I very often follow a > vegan diet and do so for health reasons. I smoked for many years. I > no longer smoke but I am still in the higher risk group for lung > cancer due to having smoked for so long. I want any edge I can get > and diet is the cheapest and probably the most useful for prevention, > besides not using tobacco. > > I also know of the environmental benefits from a more plant based > diet, so I have that reason too. But guilt is not my motive for > being vegan. Animals kill animals everyday for food and that is > their nature, the way they are made. Not very sound logic, to put it mildly. It sounds like: Indians (native American) tribes kill each others in wars, so why we (whites) shouldn't kill them, too? There are some nonhuman animals that kill members of other species (predators), but there are also those which don't kill others (cows, rabbits, goats, ...). What is the logic of killing and eating those who don't kill others? Also, there are some nonhuman species whose members regularly kill members of the same species (for example some spiders ( " black widows " ) - where females kill males after mating). Should we follow them, too? While some nonhuman animals hunt and kill others, they don't enslave and torture them in factory farms (because this is exactly what factory farms are) for their whole lives, full of suffering. The notion that the very nature of nonhuman animals is that they are intended for human food is an anthropocentric religious notion which doesn't have any connection with biological and any other reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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