Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 It's strange how shopping has become a hobby over the last few decades. Jo saying that going out shopping creates jobs is akin to starting forest fires to keep smoke jumpers employed...maybe if we had a hurricane every day...think of all the employment then... Your comment makes all shopping bad...all the time. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. Yes overconsumption on a personal and planetary level can be negative but there are much more negative things happening in the world right now. There are some positive benefits when people spend their money. I do agree about shopping at WallMart. Did anyone see the cover of Forbes the other day? It said that WalMarts heirs have more money than Bill Gates and Buffett COMBINED. That IS a DISGRACE since they can't let go enough of it to provide health insurance or a living wage. In this way shopping at Wall Mart is definitely not the thoughtful thing to do on a societal level. However, that little Indonesian girl you mentioned maybe very glad to be making what she is making and happy that we are buying products that come from her country. I was out doing the dreaded "shopping" on Thanksgiving. I was at a fabric store...and it was kind of fun! Christmas music was in the air and all the decorations were out. I enjoyed myself...even while not buying much. Shopping is not everything...but my oh my...the world would be a little bit more duller without it. There are not that many places that let you know that the holidays are indeed here. K To send an email to - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 my point is that we all get sucked into the orgy of perverse consumerism every year. Heck, everyday. But it turns into a fever pitch at this time of the year. And, sorry, yes there is something VERY wrong with it. I'm not talking about going out and getting wot you need, er maybe treating yourself. I'm talking about the over-consumptive gluttonous feast we are basically ordered to take part in every year. Its the holidays, wquick, buy buy buy! cuz consumption=happiness!! you really need that new whatchahoozits, cuz its new and improved! fill yer life with crap!!! get into fights over the latest mauve furby, cuz you really really need it, yer life isn't complete unless you fill it with stuff! My point is that we are using up a finite amount of resources. My point is that we are producing enormous amounts of wastes My point is that we using most of the rest of the world as a basic slave colony... as fer the little gurl in indonesia ummm ever talked to one? i have and no, most of them aren't happy to have a job they get 13 ^%$%^$%^^ cents at...while we pay $150 fer that freakin sneaker... no more happy then 9 yr old coal miners here a century ago they are called sweat shops fer a reason they do have armed guards fer a reason they are placed in economically depressed areas fer a reason... the slaves sang in the fields as well... were they happy? Buy Nothing Day is a symbol against global capitalism its a stand against a ritual of over-consumption it has nuthin to do with going out and buying a CD it is about you thinkin about wot went into that CD....who made it, how was it produced, why you are buying it... cheers thank you for listening to fraggle's rant of the day lv2breathe Nov 27, 2004 5:52 PM Cc: Lv2breathe Re:Thanksgiving shopping <HTML><HEAD> <META charset=US-ASCII http-equiv=Content-Type content= " text/html; charset=US-ASCII " > <META content= " MSHTML 6.00.2800.1476 " name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style= " FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff " > <DIV>In a message dated 11/27/04 11:29:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style= " PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid " ><FONT face=Arial size=2>saying that going out shopping creates jobs is akin to starting forest fires to keep smoke jumpers employed...<BR>maybe if we had a hurricane every day...think of all the employment then...</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Your comment makes all shopping bad...all the time. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. Yes overconsumption on a personal and planetary level can be negative but there are much more negative things happening in the world right now. There are some positive benefits when people spend their money. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do agree about shopping at WallMart. Did anyone see the cover of Forbes the other day? It said that WalMarts heirs have more money than Bill Gates and Buffett COMBINED. That IS a DISGRACE since they can't let go enough of it to provide health insurance or a living wage. In this way shopping at Wall Mart is definitely not the thoughtful thing to do on a societal level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However, that little Indonesian girl you mentioned maybe very glad to be making what she is making and happy that we are buying products that come from her country.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was out doing the dreaded " shopping " on Thanksgiving. I was at a fabric store...and it was kind of fun! Christmas music was in the air and all the decorations were out. I enjoyed myself...even while not buying much. Shopping is not everything...but my oh my...the world would be a little bit more duller without it. 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