Guest guest Posted December 14, 2006 Report Share Posted December 14, 2006 In one very informative post the ingredient label was shown. Thank you. To me, this manufacture's terminology might just be a way of legally pulling the wool over the buyer's eyes The label stated " protein 1 gram, no significant source of saturated, trans fats,.... " In reality as I look at this ... and I could be wrong, ergo my posting this.... this product could in fact be loaded with trans fatty acids. As I understand organic chemestry, a saturated faty acid. or any saturated carbon chain, can not be trans. It is already electrically balanced and therefore ... excuse the expression ... a straight chain ... kind-a like an uncooked linguini. These chains therefore, in your blood vessels. can stick together with other saturated chains like linguini would if placed in water and not stirred and/or separated. Unsaturated chains on the other hand have an electronically out of balance structure. Because of the series of double bonds in both mono- & poly-unsaturated chains, the extra hydrogen used to make the second bond leaves only one hydrogen at that carbon. These hydrogens before we destroy the chain, naturally occur to the same side of the chain. This causes the chain to bend... sort of like an elbow maccaroni. We know you could place hundreds of these 'elbows' next to each other and they will not allign, therefore that do not stick together as the linguini would. These are called sis fatty acids. Virgin Olive oiy is so good for you because it is loaded with the mono-unsaturated fats. These mono- acids can not become trans-fatty acids as there is only one free hydrogen and the chain is out of balance no matter what side that hydrogen goes to. Now, when you oxidize (add light, heat. oxygen [air]) the sis fatty acid, the free swinging hydrogens adjust. The vertually balance themselves electronically with half of them moving to the other side of the chain .... " trans " fering from one side of the chain to the other, ergo the name Trans fatty acid. Now that this " unsaturated " fatty acid has become electronically balanced it is not longer being bent over by the imbalance, but instead becomes " straight " ... like the linguini.... but it is still an unsaturated carbon chain. It's just not good for you any longer. It acts like a saturated fatty acid, but legally can still be listed as an unsaturated fatty acid. So as one might say .... " gay in this case is better for you than straight " [no political stance intended, just something to help in an association of elbows vs. lingiuni] Bottom line .... look for the label to separate the amount of sis-fatty acids from the amount of trans-fatty acids in that section of the label under unsaturated fats, not under saturated fats. Also .. Remember that air and light oxidizes the unsaturated fatty acids. Leave a bag of chips with even a pressed oil and not hydroginated, the light and air will convert the sis-fatty to trans-fatty. Even in boxed and containerized foods, age alone without light will do the same. Those containers are not always air tight either. Aluminum chip bags you say? No light? ... Well aluminum ???? Now that's a whole new discussion. Healty eating everyone... Alyssia [un-available at your bookstores .. Alyssia's abbridged, un-pocketable Dictionary. I use this one all the time so I can not mis-spelted any words.... i.e.: Plese excuse my typos, miserable spelling and 'keyboard-disflexia'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 What an absolutely incredible explanation!!! Are you a teacher? You should be. Thank you so very much for sharing that. That was cool!!!! Alyssia <deechun_sa_ngop wrote: In one very informative post the ingredient label was shown. Thank you. To me, this manufacture's terminology might just be a way of legally pulling the wool over the buyer's eyes The label stated " protein 1 gram, no significant source of saturated, trans fats,.... " In reality as I look at this ... and I could be wrong, ergo my posting this.... this product could in fact be loaded with trans fatty acids. As I understand organic chemestry, a saturated faty acid. or any saturated carbon chain, can not be trans. It is already electrically balanced and therefore ... excuse the expression ... a straight chain ... kind-a like an uncooked linguini. These chains therefore, in your blood vessels. can stick together with other saturated chains like linguini would if placed in water and not stirred and/or separated. Unsaturated chains on the other hand have an electronically out of balance structure. Because of the series of double bonds in both mono- & poly-unsaturated chains, the extra hydrogen used to make the second bond leaves only one hydrogen at that carbon. These hydrogens before we destroy the chain, naturally occur to the same side of the chain. This causes the chain to bend... sort of like an elbow maccaroni. We know you could place hundreds of these 'elbows' next to each other and they will not allign, therefore that do not stick together as the linguini would. These are called sis fatty acids. Virgin Olive oiy is so good for you because it is loaded with the mono-unsaturated fats. These mono- acids can not become trans-fatty acids as there is only one free hydrogen and the chain is out of balance no matter what side that hydrogen goes to. Now, when you oxidize (add light, heat. oxygen [air]) the sis fatty acid, the free swinging hydrogens adjust. The vertually balance themselves electronically with half of them moving to the other side of the chain .... " trans " fering from one side of the chain to the other, ergo the name Trans fatty acid. Now that this " unsaturated " fatty acid has become electronically balanced it is not longer being bent over by the imbalance, but instead becomes " straight " ... like the linguini.... but it is still an unsaturated carbon chain. It's just not good for you any longer. It acts like a saturated fatty acid, but legally can still be listed as an unsaturated fatty acid. So as one might say .... " gay in this case is better for you than straight " [no political stance intended, just something to help in an association of elbows vs. lingiuni] Bottom line .... look for the label to separate the amount of sis-fatty acids from the amount of trans-fatty acids in that section of the label under unsaturated fats, not under saturated fats. Also .. Remember that air and light oxidizes the unsaturated fatty acids. Leave a bag of chips with even a pressed oil and not hydroginated, the light and air will convert the sis-fatty to trans-fatty. Even in boxed and containerized foods, age alone without light will do the same. Those containers are not always air tight either. Aluminum chip bags you say? No light? ... Well aluminum ???? Now that's a whole new discussion. Healty eating everyone... Alyssia [un-available at your bookstores .. Alyssia's abbridged, un-pocketable Dictionary. I use this one all the time so I can not mis-spelted any words.... i.e.: Plese excuse my typos, miserable spelling and 'keyboard-disflexia'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2006 Report Share Posted December 15, 2006 Not by profession .. but I do love teaching. Thanks for the complements Alyssia - " Danielle Saffell " <danielle_saffell Friday, December 15, 2006 11:53 AM Re: On Trans fatty acids > What an absolutely incredible explanation!!! Are you a teacher? You should > be. Thank you so very much for sharing that. That was cool!!!! > > Alyssia <deechun_sa_ngop wrote: In one very > informative post the ingredient label was shown. Thank you. > > To me, this manufacture's terminology might just be a way of legally > pulling the wool over the buyer's eyes > > The label stated " protein 1 gram, no significant source of saturated, > trans fats,.... " In reality as I look at this ... and I could be wrong, > ergo my posting this.... this product could in fact be loaded with trans > fatty acids. > > As I understand organic chemestry, a saturated faty acid. or any saturated > carbon chain, can not be trans. It is already electrically balanced and > therefore ... excuse the expression ... a straight chain ... kind-a like > an uncooked linguini. These chains therefore, in your blood vessels. can > stick together with other saturated chains like linguini would if placed > in water and not stirred and/or separated. > > Unsaturated chains on the other hand have an electronically out of balance > structure. Because of the series of double bonds in both mono- & > poly-unsaturated chains, the extra hydrogen used to make the second bond > leaves only one hydrogen at that carbon. These hydrogens before we destroy > the chain, naturally occur to the same side of the chain. This causes the > chain to bend... sort of like an elbow maccaroni. We know you could place > hundreds of these 'elbows' next to each other and they will not allign, > therefore that do not stick together as the linguini would. These are > called sis fatty acids. Virgin Olive oiy is so good for you because it is > loaded with the mono-unsaturated fats. These mono- acids can not become > trans-fatty acids as there is only one free hydrogen and the chain is out > of balance no matter what side that hydrogen goes to. > > Now, when you oxidize (add light, heat. oxygen [air]) the sis fatty acid, > the free swinging hydrogens adjust. The vertually balance themselves > electronically with half of them moving to the other side of the chain > .... " trans " fering from one side of the chain to the other, ergo the name > Trans fatty acid. Now that this " unsaturated " fatty acid has become > electronically balanced it is not longer being bent over by the imbalance, > but instead becomes " straight " ... like the linguini.... but it is still > an unsaturated carbon chain. It's just not good for you any longer. It > acts like a saturated fatty acid, but legally can still be listed as an > unsaturated fatty acid. So as one might say .... " gay in this case is > better for you than straight " [no political stance intended, just > something to help in an association of elbows vs. lingiuni] > > Bottom line .... look for the label to separate the amount of sis-fatty > acids from the amount of trans-fatty acids in that section of the label > under unsaturated fats, not under saturated fats. > > Also .. Remember that air and light oxidizes the unsaturated fatty acids. > Leave a bag of chips with even a pressed oil and not hydroginated, the > light and air will convert the sis-fatty to trans-fatty. Even in boxed and > containerized foods, age alone without light will do the same. Those > containers are not always air tight either. > > Aluminum chip bags you say? No light? ... Well aluminum ???? Now that's a > whole new discussion. > > Healty eating everyone... > > Alyssia > > [un-available at your bookstores .. Alyssia's abbridged, un-pocketable > Dictionary. I use this one all the time so I can not mis-spelted any > words.... i.e.: Plese excuse my typos, miserable spelling and > 'keyboard-disflexia'] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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