Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 In a message dated 7/31/04 4:12:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, writes: Message: 17 Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:28 -0400 Gaije Kushner <gaijeRe: Re: people's apathyWell, you can't do anything about other people's actions, you really just can't. All you really can even try to change is your reactions to them. So, do you feel like this intolerance is serving you in any way at all? My guess would ne that it's just dragging down your mood, time, and energy, and serving no positive purpose at all. We can never really know what goes on in other people's lives, and so really have np right to judge them And even if we did, it serves absolutely no purpose, towards either altering their behavior, or improving the lot of any other sentient being. All its likely, really, to accomplish, is to leave YOU less able to achieve anything at all, as it'll get you all cranked up and unhappy. I could now get all Buddhist-y on you, and go on about ways of working with one's afflictive emotions, but I'll spare everyone that!GaijeOn Fri, 30 Jul 2004 3:39pm, lv2breathe wrote:> I can't really tolerate apathy to tell you the truth! So there goes my> advice about acceptance!>> When I see people willingly use Windex even though it was forced down> rabbit's eyes....it's so hard for me. I think "they are so coldhearted > to not care"> and I think "they just care about their own convenience". It's not > happy at> all....any one have any suggestions? Geez....when people KNOW about > the> suffering but can't even buy at Trader Joes, for a good price, a > cruelty free> product then I say they have a heart of stone.>> Kristina>> In a message dated 7/30/04 8:45:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time,> writes:> It's strange really - sometimes you can take other people's apathy in > your> stride, and other times you find it really irritating.>>> Jo--gaije I agree Gaije, it's not productive to be intolerant. I know it does more harm than good...let's just say I am working on it. I have found two things that help me have an "attitude adjustment" one of them is Buddhisty...but it works. The first one is have compassion for those who don't care as much. Have compassion that they haven't developed their heart on this issue and have compassion for the fact that, assuming one believes in karma, that they will feel the repercussion of the actions from their carelessness. The other thing that helps me get along with others when we have differing points of view...is to focus on what I like about them instead of what I don't understand or don't get. Just focus on all the good they have..simple, no? K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 I also find it helpful to wish those behaving in ways I wouldn't well - more specifically, to wish them Happiness, Freedom from Suffering, & Equanimity. The closer they come to an " enlightened " state (define that however you like), the more likely they are to let go of those unwise behaviors, which will benefit everyone. Gaije On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 5:03pm, lv2breathe wrote: > In a message dated 7/31/04 4:12:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > writes: > Message: 17 > Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:59:28 -0400 > Gaije Kushner <gaije > Re: Re: people's apathy > > Well, you can't do anything about other people's actions, you really > just can't. All you really can even try to change is your reactions to > them. So, do you feel like this intolerance is serving you in any way > at all? My guess would ne that it's just dragging down your mood, > time, > and energy, and serving no positive purpose at all. We can never > really > know what goes on in other people's lives, and so really have np right > to judge them And even if we did, it serves absolutely no purpose, > towards either altering their behavior, or improving the lot of any > other sentient being. All its likely, really, to accomplish, is to > leave YOU less able to achieve anything at all, as it'll get you all > cranked up and unhappy. I could now get all Buddhist-y on you, and go > on about ways of working with one's afflictive emotions, but I'll spare > everyone that! > > Gaije > On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 3:39pm, lv2breathe wrote: >> I can't really tolerate apathy to tell you the truth! So there goes >> my >> advice about acceptance! >> >> When I see people willingly use Windex even though it was forced down >> rabbit's eyes....it's so hard for me. I think " they are so >> coldhearted >> to not care " >> and I think " they just care about their own convenience " . It's not >> happy at >> all....any one have any suggestions? Geez....when people KNOW about >> the >> suffering but can't even buy at Trader Joes, for a good price, a >> cruelty free >> product then I say they have a heart of stone. >> >> Kristina >> >> In a message dated 7/30/04 8:45:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >> writes: >> It's strange really - sometimes you can take other people's apathy in >> your >> stride, and other times you find it really irritating. >> >> >> Jo > --gaije > I agree Gaije, it's not productive to be intolerant. I know it does > more > harm than good...let's just say I am working on it. > > I have found two things that help me have an " attitude adjustment " one > of > them is Buddhisty...but it works. > > The first one is have compassion for those who don't care as much. > Have > compassion that they haven't developed their heart on this issue and > have > compassion for the fact that, assuming one believes in karma, that they > will feel the > repercussion of the actions from their carelessness. > > The other thing that helps me get along with others when we have > differing > points of view...is to focus on what I like about them instead of what > I don't > understand or don't get. Just focus on all the good they have..simple, > no? > > K --gaije Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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