Slightly of subject Interjection Life After Death

[Guest guest]

*shrug*

not stoopidity...

just a temporary error,,,

:

Fair rebuttle I concede flawed logic on the suckling point in fact to

to long after I sent that e-mail I cringed at the stupidity of that

point and that any one reading it would imediately assume that the

whole argument was crap cause I botched that point.

[Guest guest]

nope

 

it wasn't....

where would the "peasants" and serfs get meat???

they had, oh the occasional egg, and on fest days would pony up and maybe get a hunk of something dead...

but..fer the most part, the diet was grain, with veggies when they were available

this wasn't an altruistic thing..

not at all

its just that was all they could afford

cows were used to breed oxen

goats were used fer milk

chickens were used fer eggs

etc and so forth..

to kill one outright was sorta wasteful, since, as u said there was no refrigeration..they'd have to salt all the meat to make it last..

 

and, throughtout history, there have been many veggie/vegan adherents and cultures...

pythagorans were veggies

there was some sort of vegetarian culture near Thrace about 2-3000 BC, which apparantly was wiped out...

(maybe this is where the legend of the lotus eaters comes from???)

there have been veggie societies in ancient persia and india

then there are the vegetarian aspects of budhism and hinduism...

etc and so forth...

cheers

fraggle

 

Sorry not gonna bit on this one, while I'll admitt that rank has it's

privalage in midieval europe meat was at the very least a fair

portion of the diet. And in "pre-chritian" europe before it was

sliced up by the church when the various groups goths were running

arou in brass chockers and blue paint harassing the romans. And even

after that. Not only that, even if we had started out as purely

veggies there no reason that evolution couldn't have taken us

down "the road to predation" and for some cultures it was, the

mentioned alutian indians who's diet was predominately meat based.

[Guest guest]

Sorry not gonna bit on this one, while I'll admitt that rank has it's

privalage in midieval europe meat was at the very least a fair

portion of the diet. And in " pre-chritian " europe before it was

sliced up by the church when the various groups goths were running

arou in brass chockers and blue paint harassing the romans. And even

after that. Not only that, even if we had started out as purely

veggies there no reason that evolution couldn't have taken us

down " the road to predation " and for some cultures it was, the

mentioned alutian indians who's diet was predominately meat based.

 

, EBbrewpunx@c... wrote:

> even in medieval europe they didn't eat a whole lot of meat, unless

you were

> a rich noble er a member of the new up and coming merchant class..

> the majority of folks existed on a diet of grains, with veggies

whenever they

> could get em....

> >

> > The pre-Christian Europeans commonly considered to be " Pagan " in

the

> > more traditional sense where in no wise vegan! They wouldn't

have

> > made it trough the first winter had they been because unlike use

that

> > didn't have a frozen vegetable isle ate their local super-market

or

> > jet-fresh veggies. With rare exception non-industrialized humans

had

> > far less meat in there diet that we do to day, that why we all

fat

> > and lazy case we get to much and we don't have to work enough of

for

> > our next helping. Chances were good that half way trough winter

what

> > ever plant mater they had managed to preserve had been consumed

> > because even the other animals were starving to death. At this

point

> > carnivore would have been essential the alternative was death and

> > being animals underneath it all death is something we avoid like,

> > well death... That's why spring is so important to " Pagan's "

because

> > it meant that they could eat veggies again.