Slightly of subject Interjection Life After Death

[Guest guest]

all mammals suckle..its part of wot makes em mammals...

gorillas are vegetarian, and they suckle.....elephants..etc

while we might have started as omniverous, i think it was still very much bent toward the vegetative aspect of the diet..fruits and leaves and all that..

we make horrible carnivorous leanin omnivores.....we don't even have claws...

sure..we were built to eat all sorts of things..but i think the basis of our diet as the forest around us sank and we began to venture out into the new spreadin savannahs of africa was more veggie, with the occassional lizard, a birds egg, ooo..and some nummy termites...

the austrolopethicines were vegetarians...

The fact

that we suckle points to an omnivorous diet. Modern Vegans like

there Hindu forbearers CHOSE not to be omnivorous for distinctly

moral reasons. Chimps and Bonobos (Pigmy Chimps even more closely

related) our closest living relative are consummate omnivores and

even cannibalistic on occasion. The idea that humans started out

vegan and somehow strayed into omnivory is naive at best.

[Guest guest]

even in medieval europe they didn't eat a whole lot of meat, unless you were a rich noble er a member of the new up and coming merchant class..

the majority of folks existed on a diet of grains, with veggies whenever they could get em....

 

The pre-Christian Europeans commonly considered to be "Pagan" in the

more traditional sense where in no wise vegan! They wouldn't have

made it trough the first winter had they been because unlike use that

didn't have a frozen vegetable isle ate their local super-market or

jet-fresh veggies. With rare exception non-industrialized humans had

far less meat in there diet that we do to day, that why we all fat

and lazy case we get to much and we don't have to work enough of for

our next helping. Chances were good that half way trough winter what

ever plant mater they had managed to preserve had been consumed

because even the other animals were starving to death. At this point

carnivore would have been essential the alternative was death and

being animals underneath it all death is something we avoid like,

well death... That's why spring is so important to "Pagan's" because

it meant that they could eat veggies again.

[Guest guest]

See this is what I'm talking about human history is replete with rip

offs and reinventions. There's nothing new under the sun. As most

of us will maintain Veganism isn't new. From what I hear true

absolute and intentional Veganism started as a Hindu sect. The

Jewish forbearers of Christianity were omnivores, hello...

sacrificing lambs as atonement, Passover...

 

Accidental Veganism, was just that, forced by natural circumstance

and I'm sorry but humans have been omnivorous since before they

developed a four-chambered heart, fur, and mammary glands. The fact

that we suckle points to an omnivorous diet. Modern Vegans like

there Hindu forbearers CHOSE not to be omnivorous for distinctly

moral reasons. Chimps and Bonobos (Pigmy Chimps even more closely

related) our closest living relative are consummate omnivores and

even cannibalistic on occasion. The idea that humans started out

vegan and somehow strayed into omnivory is naive at best.

 

The pre-Christian Europeans commonly considered to be " Pagan " in the

more traditional sense where in no wise vegan! They wouldn't have

made it trough the first winter had they been because unlike use that

didn't have a frozen vegetable isle ate their local super-market or

jet-fresh veggies. With rare exception non-industrialized humans had

far less meat in there diet that we do to day, that why we all fat

and lazy case we get to much and we don't have to work enough of for

our next helping. Chances were good that half way trough winter what

ever plant mater they had managed to preserve had been consumed

because even the other animals were starving to death. At this point

carnivore would have been essential the alternative was death and

being animals underneath it all death is something we avoid like,

well death... That's why spring is so important to " Pagan's " because

it meant that they could eat veggies again.

 

This theme is even echoed in Christianity. As pointed out earlier

Easter coincides directly with " Pagan " Europe's Spring festivities

because the underlying concept is identical. Rebirth. Spring and

the resurrection are about rebirth and the end of death that winter

brings. We count ourselves lucky to be alive, and relish it `cause

we might not make it through next winter.

 

There were earlier human civilizations who subsisted almost

exclusively on meat because it was the only source of nourishment

available. The Aleutian Indians we're one such group their diet was

so specific that their body chemistry had more in common with their

prey stock marine mammals than there main land human relative. But

they paid the price for it their life spans were abnormally

punctuated, relative to the mainlanders, who got more greens.

 

David

 

" The admission of ignorance is the begining of understanding. " --

(don't ask cause I don't know who got the credit for saying it first,

but chances are they pagerized it).

 

 

, " simonpjones " <simonpjones@o...>

wrote:

> This is the problem Constantine people (The Vatican) caused...It

changed the Sabbath from saturday to sunday( the pagans worship day)

and helped mix pagan traditions with Christs message.

> I think the Seventh Day Adventist are the only Christian gathers

that keep to the saturday and encourage a veggie/vegan diet.

>

> Simon

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> ---- Original Message -----

> Peter

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> Saturday, April 10, 2004 5:25 PM

> Re: Re: Life After Death

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> Hi Yannis

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> > Any more serious contradictions???

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> I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, but you might want

to look into the story of Dionysus... it pre-dates the Jesus story by

several centuries, but apart from the names of people and places, the

story is identical.. so, are they celebrating the story of Jesus in

Jerusalem, or the original?

>

> BB

> Peter

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