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Kristina

 

> You are totally projecting here. I never insist that others believe what I believe... you were the one that told me, told me, not suggested or not

> just offered your opinion...that my beliefs were incorrect.

 

I told you that you were wrong to tell everyone else that your beliefs are better than other peoples beliefs. I stand by that statement.

 

> And you know what? I have no lack of understanding of belief vs. knowledge. And going back to the original discussion I've read a lot of yogi

> experiences and yes, they have more than belief, they have had actual experiences where they know what happens after death....longterm! If

> you don't share this view OK...but I am acutely aware of belief AND knowledge and I think I have both...again you do not have to agree. But

> please, don't tell me my experiences because you do not know what I know or have experienced. Thank you.

 

"They know"... ergo, people who disagree are wrong... "I am aware of knowledge, and have [knowledge]".... ergo, anyone who disagrees with me is wrong.

 

You are right, I do not know what you have experienced... largely because you haven't actually said what you have experienced - you have just insisted that your beliefs hold knowledge that is not attained by other beliefs, and are therefore somehow better.

 

Perhaps you could share some details of your experiences... perhaps you could tell us what you believe happens after physical death, and what experiences you personally have of this?

 

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There you go again - you know (not believe). We accept that you believe whatever it is you believe. We do not accept that you know what happens after death.

 

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Monday, March 29, 2004 4:18 PM

Re:I have belief and knowledge!

 

In a message dated 3/28/04 4:25:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, writes:

There is nothing wrong in believing something... there is something very wrong in insisting that everyone else must believe it! You seem to have trouble understanding the difference between belief and knowledge.

Peter

 

You are totally projecting here. I never insist that others believe what I believe... you were the one that told me, told me, not suggested or not just offered your opinion...that my beliefs were incorrect.

 

And you know what? I have no lack of understanding of belief vs. knowledge. And going back to the original discussion I've read a lot of yogi experiences and yes, they have more than belief, they have had actual experiences where they know what happens after death....longterm! If you don't share this view OK...but I am acutely aware of belief AND knowledge and I think I have both...again you do not have to agree. But please, don't tell me my experiences because you do not know what I know or have experienced. Thank you.

 

Kristina

 

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Monday, March 29, 2004 5:58 PM

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Kristina

 

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> experiences and yes, they have more than belief, they have had actual experiences where they know what happens after death....longterm! If

> you don't share this view OK...but I am acutely aware of belief AND knowledge and I think I have both...again you do not have to agree. But

> please, don't tell me my experiences because you do not know what I know or have experienced. Thank you.>

 

Hi....How long term are you talking about? 1 hour, 3 hours, 1 year, 1 billion years, a zillion years, or an infinate amount of time?

 

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