Guest guest Posted March 23, 2004 Report Share Posted March 23, 2004 In a message dated 3/19/04 10:01:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: Message: 10 Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:54:26 -0800 (PST) James Allen <fluffy0752The Meat Eaters Miserable LifeHi Guys,It is not up to us to judge meat eaters. They reap enough punishment as it is, with more to follow after death. Meat eaters are more often than not unhappy people. They have problems with their relationships and with their health. I was a meat eater for 60 years myself, and I was not an exception. In 1990 I became disabled, and I know it was because of my guilt over eating my animal brothers/sisters. I knew better, but could not stop. I valued the taste of meat more than I valued the welfare of God's animal children. The irony is that I was active in various animal welfare organizations. What a hypocrite I was ! Thank God those days are behind me. Eating meat has an unfortunate side effect on the human Soul. Each person's conscience protests against eating meat, or using products connected to cruel animal experiments. The conscience knows it's wrong to hurt the animals. But people have free will and can over-ride the judgments of their conscience. By relegating it to such a deeplevel that they no longer are guided by it in any matter at all. As a result we have child abusers, thieves, murderers, lovers of pornography and the vulgar, unmarried parents, unfaithful husbands/wives , disrespectful, out of control children, Men like Saddam and Hitler who commit the most horrible of crimes against humanity without the slightest twinge from their conscience. Anyone who eats meat or exploits and hurts God's animal children is on the fast lane to destruction. I speak from experience. I was one of them. Somehow I had not completely destroyed my conscience. My conscience finally got through to me and changed my nature so much that there is no way I will ever be able to eat or use animal products again. In a way it might be good that I took so long before seeing the Light. My example shows that it is never too late to do what is right. I regret deeply my former ways; I am going to use the rest of my life as an advocate for animal rights. I support PETA, the AnimalLiberation Front, Best Friends Animal Sanctuary, ASPCA, and several others. I hope to make a positive difference before I die. I believe that there is a special place in hell reserved for those who hurt God's children, both human and animal. I thank God that I lived long enough to change my ways and avoid eternity in that part of hell, which I so richly deserved. I can only regret my days as a meat eater, the past cannot be changed. But on the other hand, I have the rest of my live to do what's right. I can say with certainty that there is nothing better than to live under the guidence of a clear conscience. As a Christian I have noticed that members of my congregation who ate meet tended to be overly aggressive and overly competitive. We do not have to defend our vegan life style with arguments or persuations, We can lead by example and my testifying to the benifits we enjoy from our positive life style.Rev. Jim Jim I enjoyed your story very much. Thank you for sharing. I am curious though...what was the final "thing" that made you change? Was it something you read, or saw? Also, if I may ask...what sect of Christianity are you involved in? And, if you want to share...I'd love to know what part of the country you reside in. I am also curious how your fellow parishoners have reacted to your changes. All the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 We were waiting to catch a ferry, and there were 4 older people sitting on a bench. My 3 year old daughter went to smell flowers in a big flower pot directly across from the bench, and one of the older gentlemen said to her " don't eat the flowers! " . She turned around looked him right in the eyes and said " Don't eat animals! " They all laughed, and I smiled and said, well, she tells you what she thinks! Ever since she has learned about people eating animals, and other bad things that people do, she has declared that she has a job. When I explained to her what I do for a living (I'm a non-profit director working on healthy school foods), she said " Well, I have a job, too, and it's kind of like yours, but different. My job is to tell people not to put chemicals on their lawns. " A few days later, she told me she had 2 jobs, and the second was to tell people not to smoke. The day after that, her 3rd job was to tell people not to eat animals. Now she regularly tells people she has 3 jobs, and then she tells them what her jobs are. Maybe she's planning on following in my footsteps... Amie wrote: >There are 13 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > Renee Carroll <renecarol25 > 2. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > <shaammara > 3. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > <shaammara > 4. RE: Vegan Chik'n Patties > " Steven and Katherine Isola " <isolafamily > 5. play groups > " mr3family " <mr3family > 6. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > Faith <faithlotus > 7. Vegan Lo Mein > <quintmom > 8. Re: play groups > Renee Carroll <renecarol25 > 9. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > <shaammara > 10. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > " smartgirl27us " <thesmartfamily3 > 11. Just Food > Catharin Meadors <bokodasu > 12. Re: play groups > ChristaNovelli > 13. Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > Karen Hirsch <khirsch > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 1 > Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:20:46 -0700 (PDT) > Renee Carroll <renecarol25 >Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > >gardenburger has some chick'n patties. They have flame >grilled patties that are vegan. The patties used in >all the convience meals are vegan. The herb crusted >cutlets have honey in them. >Renee > >--- smartgirl27us <thesmartfamily3 wrote: > > > >>Anyone know of a brand of vegan chik'n patties? We >>used to buy Health >>is Wealth, but their new " tastier " recipe has egg >>whites. Oh I was so >>mad when I saw that. Since then, every other brand >>I have checked >>also contains egg whites. Or does anyone have a >>good recipe for >>making them? >> >>Rachael >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >__ > Sports >Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football >http://football.fantasysports. > > > > >______________________ >______________________ > >Message: 2 > Wed, 22 Jun 2005 09:38:42 -0400 > <shaammara >Re: Vegan Chik'n Patties > >It took me a bit to find them on their site. So I just copied and pasted here, and provided the link below. >Veggie Chick'n Burgers >These tender, succulent burgers are made with soy protein, a blend of tasty herbs and a touch of lemon. One-of-a-kind taste that's low in fat, cholesterol-free and preservative-free. > >Ingredients: > > > water, soy protein product, vital wheat gluten, canola oil, natural flavour, spices, yeast extract, carrageenan, salt, modified cellulose, organic evaporated cane juice, lemon juice powder, potato starch, konjac flour, vitamin B1 (thiamine hydrochloride), vitamin B2 (riboflavin), vitamin B3 (niacinamide), vitamin B6 (pyriodoxine hydrochloride), vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin), pantothenic acid (calcium pantothenate), reduced iron, zinc (zinc oxide). > >http://www.yvesveggie.com/products_details.php?product_id=43 & page=1 & pId=lItem3 > >Enjoy, Maggie > > > - > smartgirl27us > > Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:13 PM > Vegan Chik'n Patties > > > Anyone know of a brand of vegan chik'n patties? We used to buy Health > is Wealth, but their new " tastier " recipe has egg whites. Oh I was so > mad when I saw that. Since then, every other brand I have checked > also contains egg whites. Or does anyone have a good recipe for > making them? > > Rachael > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. > > edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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