Grass:; Not Food for Our Species; Questions for Erica (WAS: An Overview Of The Living Foods Diet / What Most Raw Fooders Practice)

[Guest guest]

Erica,

 

In my experience working with people, most have " a problem with grass " . Our

species does not digest grass, or most of its content, well at all. The only

animals that DO digest grass and grass constituents well all have multiple

stomachs.

 

But these people, the ones who experience these " problems " , are individuals,

they are not labeled into any group. So when you, or anyone, communicate

using labels (Hippocrates this, natural hygiene that, and so forth), these

people have no place, no voice. Still, I assure you and everyone here that

they are as numerous as, say, the blades of grass on a hillside.

 

And this has nothing at all to do with natural hygiene, in particular, not

sure where you picked up or invented that connection.

 

And also, not sure at all where you got the notion that Brian's book is the

best overview of raw, or that the Hippocrates approach is that of some

majority, or pretty much any of these sort of things you've been sharing

lately. I do get rather clearly that you have must have had some sort of

really awful encounter with natural hygiene along the way ... but I don't

get the impression that you really understand all that well. I mean, you

said that you read Doug's book, but I honestly would not have guessed that

you had.

 

Sometimes I have the impression that it's more like you've been hurt, or

perhaps someone you know has been hurt? I don't know, just a sense, an

impression from a distance. Share if you wish, or not if you prefer not.

 

Perhaps you would be willing to share how you came to some of the

conclusions you've published lately, for example some that I mention above?

I mean, you probably can't cite any " hard data " , as such probably does not

exist, that's not what I'm asking. Rather, I'm just asking how you,

personally, made some of these connections and came to some of these

conclusions. If you feel comfortable sharing about it. ... I've no desire

you " put you on the spot " , either.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Erica

Friday, October 26, 2007 12:56 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: An Overview Of The Living Foods Diet / What Most Raw

Fooders Practice

 

 

> > It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and leafy

> > greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> > Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana. Why is

> > that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on wheat

> > grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day. Green

> > fringe.

> >

> > Janet

 

Janet, Natural Hygiene is definitely a smaller fringe raw movement.

Wheatgrass however was a large part of the Hippocrates Diet. And is to many.

Only really Natural Hygienists had a problem with it, so I'm not surprised

you do. ERica

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

I don't know abut Erica, but the first time I read about the

benefits of wheatgrass, it was Dr. Ann Wigmore. And I still don't

have much of an idea about natural hygiene. I picked up one of

Natalie Rose's books (if I'm remembering correctly it was her)in

Borders the other day, and was reading about body brushing and

rebounding being excellent for lymph drainage...Had no clue what

body brushing was, or how one does it, even after online searches.

I'm sure there's better info out there, I just haven't run across it

as yet......

 

Nicole

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Erica,

>

> In my experience working with people, most have " a problem with

grass " . Our

> species does not digest grass, or most of its content, well at

all. The only

> animals that DO digest grass and grass constituents well all have

multiple

> stomachs.

>

> But these people, the ones who experience these " problems " , are

individuals,

> they are not labeled into any group. So when you, or anyone,

communicate

> using labels (Hippocrates this, natural hygiene that, and so

forth), these

> people have no place, no voice. Still, I assure you and everyone

here that

> they are as numerous as, say, the blades of grass on a hillside.

>

> And this has nothing at all to do with natural hygiene, in

particular, not

> sure where you picked up or invented that connection.

>

> And also, not sure at all where you got the notion that Brian's

book is the

> best overview of raw, or that the Hippocrates approach is that of

some

> majority, or pretty much any of these sort of things you've been

sharing

> lately. I do get rather clearly that you have must have had some

sort of

> really awful encounter with natural hygiene along the way ... but

I don't

> get the impression that you really understand all that well. I

mean, you

> said that you read Doug's book, but I honestly would not have

guessed that

> you had.

>

> Sometimes I have the impression that it's more like you've been

hurt, or

> perhaps someone you know has been hurt? I don't know, just a

sense, an

> impression from a distance. Share if you wish, or not if you

prefer not.

>

> Perhaps you would be willing to share how you came to some of the

> conclusions you've published lately, for example some that I

mention above?

> I mean, you probably can't cite any " hard data " , as such probably

does not

> exist, that's not what I'm asking. Rather, I'm just asking how you,

> personally, made some of these connections and came to some of

these

> conclusions. If you feel comfortable sharing about it. ... I've no

desire

> you " put you on the spot " , either.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On

Behalf Of

> Erica

> Friday, October 26, 2007 12:56 PM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: An Overview Of The Living Foods Diet /

What Most Raw

> Fooders Practice

>

>

> > > It's funny that eating whole foods, mostly sweet fruits and

leafy

> > > greens corners a person into a category of " fringe movement " .

> > > Heheheeh. That's cute. I peel the banana, I eat the banana.

Why is

> > > that considered " fringe " ? Ann Wigmore got people started on

wheat

> > > grass. Wheat grass reminds me of fringe over a mango any day.

Green

> > > fringe.

> > >

> > > Janet

>

> Janet, Natural Hygiene is definitely a smaller fringe raw movement.

> Wheatgrass however was a large part of the Hippocrates Diet. And

is to many.

> Only really Natural Hygienists had a problem with it, so I'm not

surprised

> you do. ERica

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Perhaps you would be willing to share how you came to some of the

> conclusions you've published lately, for example some that I

mention above?

 

Wheatgrass - I have seen it turn health afflictions around faster

than anything else. That is why it's such a large part of the

Hippocrates diet. And yes, digesting it is very hard. That is why we

juice it....

 

Natural Hygiene - when I first got into raw, I did a 34 day water

fast. I love Shelton! I have no personal negative experiences. Lots

of gourmet raw eaters don't practice combining, and I agree it's

ideal. It's the rigidity and rudeness experienced from pure NH-ers,

who sound cult-like, that is offputting. The inflexibility. Some NH-

ers (not evern 8/1/1-ers) are OBVIOUSLY pale, corpse-like, dry-

haired, etc, and insist they are healthy. Wierd if you ask me. I

never had a bad experience with NH, just it's followers and zealots.

 

I have only been hurt by the fact that the raw movement is so not

what it seems it should be.... Health is not the goal, underneath it

all, it seems book sales and the like are. Just sad. It's people's

lives, you know?

 

Because I read a wide variety of topics, I know that it is

questionable at best that we can get everything from even " the best "

soil. I know that there is enough controversy over fruits these days

that it is worth discussing both sides if someone has cancer, etc. I

know that it is indicated enough across the board that B12 deficiency

is pretty real, and I think it's scary when people assume with 100%

confidence that everyone will get it from greens. That is simply not

true, and if people start talking that way I already know they are

truly not educated on the topic, sorry.

 

Erica