Sensory Self-Awareness [Disguising Nonfoods] ... Transitioning & More

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzanne,

 

I tend to use language far more precisely than do most people. In this

instance, I never said sprouts are " bad " , I simply don't speak like that.

 

Similarly, I do not believe there are any " superfoods " , " miracle foods " , or

the like. Such talk is all marketing hype, and unfortunately many people,

familiar with the fractional thinking upon which the medical model and the

entire food and drug industry are based, buy this sort of thing hook, line,

and sinker. But none of it is even remotely true. I mean, if it were, then

at least one of two of the people who have been eating all that stuff for

decades would have become super people by now. It just ain't so, and no

amount of products, books, workshops, talks, or the like can make it so.

 

In your previous post, you made a blanket statement about sprouts being

" really healthy " . I have no context in which to comprehend this statement.

 

A thing that is unhealthful is generally unhealthful across the board. But

things we regard as " healthful " can only be healthful in some context.

Anything, taken to excess or used out of harmony with our design (out of our

natural context), become an impediment to our well-being, regardless of what

that thing may be. And foods are no exception.

 

Yes, in general a diet of fruits and shoots is what we are designed to eat.

But if I encounter a period when, for example, I'm just not attracted to

strawberries, then I don't eat any strawberries for awhile. It's always

temporary--my system either prefers something else, doesn't want the acid,

something. It really doesn't matter what the " reason " is ... I just listen

(observe) and follow. I trust Nature's design, and therefore I trust my

innate intelligence ... for me, that's enough.

 

Under Nature's " normal " conditions, such challenges would be rare because of

the normal ebb and flow of seasonal foods. But now, we have learned to

produce many foods throughout the year, and so we can easily overload

ourselves with almost any food.

 

When your senses (whether taste buds, olfactory sense, etc.) reject a

particular food, it can mean several things, and honestly I'd need to be

teaching in person to get the fullness of this point across. It can mean

it's not food for our species, it can mean it's not food for you right now,

it can mean other things as well.

 

For most RF teachers, " transitioning " means diving into a plethora of

recipes where we attempt to create RF replicas of many cooked food dishes

.... cookies, cakes, breads, burgers, and so forth. It means zero shift in

our fundamental paradigms, zero shift in the way we relate within Nature's

design

 

From my perspective, such teaching encourages people to take a very long,

winding. and often costly road (in money, energy, time, and more) instead of

what could become a quite simple and straightforward journey into healthful

living.

 

To me, " transitioning " means, among other things, relearning to eat and

relearning our own sensory awarenesses related to eating ... thirst, hunger,

satiation, and more. But such relearning is largely experiential in nature.

In the Path of Health Community (PathOfHealth discussion group), where we

have a group of people that have been learning a coherent set of teachings

for an extended period of time, I can teach this by writings and

conversations. But in a more disparate group such as this, I'm just not

willing to take that on.

 

Regarding your examples--chocolate, ice cream, and pizza--if and as your

sensory self-awareness rises over time, you will begin to realize that your

body exhibits multiple responses to such items. You will distinguish

hyperstimulation from genuine enjoyment, and you will begin to distinguish

other responses such as dehydration (thirst), overeating (physically

stuffing the belly), along with various accompanying nasal and auditory

responses. Again, such a relearning process is experiential in nature. I

believe one CAN accomplish this on one's own ... and I've rarely seen anyone

do so.

 

Most people have no earthly idea what symptoms to notice, much less how to

interpret them. Tomorrow, I may write on the hair-loss discussion ... same

thing there. People are observing things that are definitely happening to

them, but without any knowledge about how to interpret what is happening,

wrong conclusions are drawn.

 

_____

 

susanneca799 [susanne]

Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:39 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Sensory Self-Awareness [Disguising Nonfoods] (WAS:

What to do with sprouts?)

 

 

Elchanan,

 

Okay, if this is true, if people should avoid foods they don't like, and eat

the foods they do like, I would be eating A LOT of chocolate, ice cream and

pizza! That would not be very healthy. Why do you think sprouts are bad? I

always thought they were a nutritionally dense miraacle food.

 

Susanne

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks, this does make sense. The body does have a wisdom and

should be listened to.

 

Susanne

 

rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan wrote:

>

> Hi Suzanne,

>

> I tend to use language far more precisely than do most people. In

this

> instance, I never said sprouts are " bad " , I simply don't speak

like that.

>

> Similarly, I do not believe there are any " superfoods " , " miracle

foods " , or

> the like. Such talk is all marketing hype, and unfortunately many

people,

> familiar with the fractional thinking upon which the medical model

and the

> entire food and drug industry are based, buy this sort of thing

hook, line,

> and sinker. But none of it is even remotely true. I mean, if it

were, then

> at least one of two of the people who have been eating all that

stuff for

> decades would have become super people by now. It just ain't so,

and no

> amount of products, books, workshops, talks, or the like can make

it so.

>

> In your previous post, you made a blanket statement about sprouts

being

> " really healthy " . I have no context in which to comprehend this

statement.

>

> A thing that is unhealthful is generally unhealthful across the

board. But

> things we regard as " healthful " can only be healthful in some

context.

> Anything, taken to excess or used out of harmony with our design

(out of our

> natural context), become an impediment to our well-being,

regardless of what

> that thing may be. And foods are no exception.

>

> Yes, in general a diet of fruits and shoots is what we are

designed to eat.

> But if I encounter a period when, for example, I'm just not

attracted to

> strawberries, then I don't eat any strawberries for awhile. It's

always

> temporary--my system either prefers something else, doesn't want

the acid,

> something. It really doesn't matter what the " reason " is ... I

just listen

> (observe) and follow. I trust Nature's design, and therefore I

trust my

> innate intelligence ... for me, that's enough.

>

> Under Nature's " normal " conditions, such challenges would be rare

because of

> the normal ebb and flow of seasonal foods. But now, we have

learned to

> produce many foods throughout the year, and so we can easily

overload

> ourselves with almost any food.

>

> When your senses (whether taste buds, olfactory sense, etc.)

reject a

> particular food, it can mean several things, and honestly I'd need

to be

> teaching in person to get the fullness of this point across. It

can mean

> it's not food for our species, it can mean it's not food for you

right now,

> it can mean other things as well.

>

> For most RF teachers, " transitioning " means diving into a plethora

of

> recipes where we attempt to create RF replicas of many cooked food

dishes

> ... cookies, cakes, breads, burgers, and so forth. It means zero

shift in

> our fundamental paradigms, zero shift in the way we relate within

Nature's

> design

>

> From my perspective, such teaching encourages people to take a

very long,

> winding. and often costly road (in money, energy, time, and more)

instead of

> what could become a quite simple and straightforward journey into

healthful

> living.

>

> To me, " transitioning " means, among other things, relearning to

eat and

> relearning our own sensory awarenesses related to eating ...

thirst, hunger,

> satiation, and more. But such relearning is largely experiential

in nature.

> In the Path of Health Community (PathOfHealth discussion group),

where we

> have a group of people that have been learning a coherent set of

teachings

> for an extended period of time, I can teach this by writings and

> conversations. But in a more disparate group such as this, I'm

just not

> willing to take that on.

>

> Regarding your examples--chocolate, ice cream, and pizza--if and

as your

> sensory self-awareness rises over time, you will begin to realize

that your

> body exhibits multiple responses to such items. You will

distinguish

> hyperstimulation from genuine enjoyment, and you will begin to

distinguish

> other responses such as dehydration (thirst), overeating

(physically

> stuffing the belly), along with various accompanying nasal and

auditory

> responses. Again, such a relearning process is experiential in

nature. I

> believe one CAN accomplish this on one's own ... and I've rarely

seen anyone

> do so.

>

> Most people have no earthly idea what symptoms to notice, much

less how to

> interpret them. Tomorrow, I may write on the hair-loss

discussion ... same

> thing there. People are observing things that are definitely

happening to

> them, but without any knowledge about how to interpret what is

happening,

> wrong conclusions are drawn.

>

> _____

>

> susanneca799 [susanne]

> Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:39 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re: Sensory Self-Awareness [Disguising

Nonfoods] (WAS:

> What to do with sprouts?)

>

>

> Elchanan,

>

> Okay, if this is true, if people should avoid foods they don't

like, and eat

> the foods they do like, I would be eating A LOT of chocolate, ice

cream and

> pizza! That would not be very healthy. Why do you think sprouts

are bad? I

> always thought they were a nutritionally dense miraacle food.

>

> Susanne

>

>

>