Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 Erica, Until you make the paradigm shift toward realizing that candida is never ... NEVER ... the problem, you'll continue name-dropping and such. Candida is ALWAYS one of a number of symptoms ... NEVER the first to occur ... ALWAYS accompanied by a very predictable series of events. The symptom is never the problem ... the problem is the problem. Almost all candida diagnoses are wrong. And where candida IS present, it resolves ... notice that I'm NOT saying anyone " cures " it ... it resolves, vanishes, disappears ... when one begins eating and living healthfully. I have rarely met ANYONE who claims to have " gotten rid of " candida who is not always looking over his/her shoulder to make sure it " doesn't come back " . Why? Because you CANNOT " get rid of it " -- by this, I mean that to do so is physically impossible -- and even if you could, the notion is self-defeating. The candida is there for a reason ... it's presence expresses Nature's design, natural law. Address the underlying cause ... the entire discussion about candida, and particularly about " getting rid of " it, is really nonsensical. I can take 100 people exhibiting blood-sugar problems ... even as severe as diabetes 2 ... and have 99 or 100 emerge free from such challenges, usually within a few weeks (often less) and using absolutely no treatment of any kind. Sheesh, it's not even difficult!!! End of thread for me. Ya get it, or ya don't. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Erica Wednesday, October 17, 2007 1:44 PM rawfood [Raw Food] Re: Candida: A Blood-FAT problem, not a blood-sugar problem What a beautiful post! :-) Actually, I DO know of people who have " cured their candida " , according to them, with 8/1/1. I believe them that they got rid of whatever it was. And ditto for those who follow - and this is a fun one - the " conventional alternative " route, which Robert Young, Ph.D, Gabriel Cousens, MD, Brian Clements and many many more who use scientific testing have concluded is the proper way. What I like to point out is that most of us are never tested for candida. When I have done extensive saliva testing with an internationally acclaimed natural doctor, I was told I had it really bad (which I knew), then it improved, and THEN I went on a big bender eating potatoes, bread, white sugar, drinking beer, and my dr didn't know, I overnighted him morning spit, and he told me my candida was gone. I felt like crap and knew why, and I still have never called him back to this day. I used to do the water/saliva test at home. I'm not sure anybody's is ever clear for that, although some people are worse, so...? The main point is that there are over 100 symptoms for candida, and although it is a very real thing, it is but one of zillions of fungi, let alone the bacteria, viri and parasites that infiltrate our body. Everybody just says it's " candida " because they've had antibiotics at least once and feel like sh*t. I honestly can say that to me it no longer matters to prove that point, and I don't think it should be the focus, really. I mean, healing is the goal, no matter how you do it. I don't think it's accurate to tell people for sure it is one or the other anymore, really, although the no-fruit theory is more backed with testing, etc. Still, I respect that some just do crappy on that, and applaud that they keep searching. To know for sure either way, people have to live very very strictly and for an elongated period of time. That is not easy, even among raw food vegans. I definitely really started benefitting when I just added a rife machine to my regimen. So I wouldn't bash or rule out either, all in all. My friend Joey DID cure his psoriasis/fungus by eating plenty of raw vegan fats and zero fruit sugar, and tons of greens, for over a year. I totally am so proud of him - THAT is not easy! When he did goof up and eat fruit once or twice, he did feel awful and a flare-up. I do know someone else who cured their issues with 8/1/1, finally, after never feeling so hot on regular raw/vegan. Eventually, these people MIGHT, though. Something in the fats or imbalance in their diet might agitate whatever their condition is. Over time, though, when people heal this and the antagonist is gone, they typically, from what I know, do not experience reactions to fruit and the like. I am most comfortable NOW being less strident and more accepting of the possibilities. However, my main point is, candida never really appears ALONE, either. There is so much more going on in us. Nobody is pretty much super healthy BUT for their massive candida problem, you know? :-) ERica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2007 Report Share Posted October 19, 2007 > Erica, > > Until you make the paradigm shift toward realizing that candida is never ... > NEVER ... the problem, you'll continue name-dropping and such. Candida is > ALWAYS one of a number of symptoms ... NEVER the first to occur ... ALWAYS > accompanied by a very predictable series of events. The symptom is never the > problem ... the problem is the problem. Elchanan - NOTHING in my post indicates that I don't understand these things about candida. I'm not sure what you mean about name-dropping. At all. The only time people I know freak out about it coming back is when they get off track and eat crap for long periods. Which makes sense. We are all born with candida, I know this. I'm not sure where your post comes from, or why it's directed at me. Erica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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