Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Joe, It'll be ok. This too will pass. Janet rawfood , " Joe Postma " <joepostma wrote: So Elchanan you commented about me writing too quickly...well, here is what I originally wrote...I don't feel like rewriting it to make it sound nicer though...sorry. Cheers Joe Oh for God's sake....I didn't calculate anything and you people are AGAIN taking my words out of context. Grow up for crying-out-loud and learn to read! Both of you! DUH! Elchanan, this place used be a hell of a lot more fun and democratic before you arrived, do you know that? If I say you can be 85% raw and experience wonderful benefits from that...what the hell isn't true about that? IT IS TRUE! You know a lot of stuff and that is great, but you obviously come on here to draw people away from it and talk them into going to YOUR site where they have to PAY YOU. That's what it seems to me. I'm gonna say it one last time just to watch you freak out again. If you switch to eating predominantly raw, you CAN eat meat once in a while if you FEEL like it and still experience wonderful health benefits. That's a darned fact if I've ever heard one. And that is great to hear for the beginner!!! Oh and if some of you are going to laugh at me for freaking out myself...YES I did just freak out! Thank you very much! And yes, maybe I did alienate myself, and yes, I don't eat 100% raw, and yes, maybe I am young and a little naive. But at least strong enough to admit it. And those traits don't diminish with age...you simply become less aware of them. Joe rawfood , " Elchanan " <Elchanan@> wrote: Nice one, Janet! Joe, I would love to know how you calculate that 15% number, if you would be willing to elaborate. In my experience, most people who claim to be X% raw are, at best, no more than half that amount, once they learn how to do the calculations. For example, people who claim to be eating 80% raw are actually eating 25-40% raw in most cases. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Janet FitzGerald Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 3:29 PM rawfood [Raw Food] OT: promoting meat....was Re: Vores Oh Joe, There you are using that f word again. And, it seems you are labeling yourself a meat-eating promoter. You don't need me to do that. I think you're doing a fine job. ;-) You said, Joe: This all started from a stance of saying that if you wish to consume meat very occasionally, it should be fine for you and don't worry especially if you eat lots of raw! Thats all. Enjoy some life, don't be so hard on yourself and others and all that sort of jazz. Janet says: This paragraph you wrote IS promoting meat. Please define, " very occasionally " and " lots of raw. " And later you said that eating a diet which consists of 15% meat is OK. Hmmmm. That is actually a great deal of meat in the diet that will promote dis-ease. (See " The China Study " ). Also, if meat the size of a cow's hoof were presented for a meal, it would take a HUGE amount of fruits and leafy greens to bring that fleshy meal down to 15% of total calories. Since cooked flesh is dense and the water is cooked out of it, the body has to pull water from the tissues to move it through the digestive tract. Meat is enervating and acidifying to the body. It will slow the body down. I don't think anyone would argue that eating less meat is better than eating more. But, why promote eating LESS meat when NO meat is better? My husband became a vegan after reading " The China Study " . I know of five people who became vegans after seeing the movie, " Fast Food Nation " . If we meet our meat and confront the suffering that precedes the slaughter of these animals, then there is hope that people would pass the red flesh aisle at the grocery store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2007 Report Share Posted September 23, 2007 Hi Elchanan, Can you tell us how the calculation should be done, please? Regards, Roger Elchanan wrote : Joe, I would love to know how you calculate that 15% number, if you would be willing to elaborate. In my experience, most people who claim to be X% raw are, at best, no more than half that amount, once they learn how to do the calculations. For example, people who claim to be eating 80% raw are actually eating 25-40% raw in most cases. Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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