Killing vs. Murder: Hormonal and Behavioral Effects of Eating Ani

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Donna,

 

I was pleased you mentioned being glad to be a part of this list.

I've read a few posts of people saying something to the effect, " this

is supposed to be a group for raw vegans, I'm leaving, etc. " .

 

I believe it's important to discuss how we feel about meat since many,

if not all of us, watch our SAD counterparts eat cooked flesh

everyday. And, many, if not most of us, DID eat cooked flesh for a

good portion of our lives. I view this thread as part of the evolution

of this group. If someone is contemplating leaving the group,

consider switching the group to " no mail " for awhile and come back

later.

 

Janet

 

rawfood , " Donna Chagnon " <donna.chagnon wrote:

 

 

 

I would only add to this thread by stating that I noticed that when I

first began eating raw I noted that my increasing aggressive behavior

came to a halt almost instantaneously. Those times that I have eaten

meat since first going raw I find that I do become aggressive in my

thinking. Frankly, I'm glad I found this list and others like it

because I was becoming quite scared by the aggressive thoughts I was

having while eating meat.

 

On 9/17/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

 

Erica, I see where you are going here. I was thinking you were going

to say " times per YEAR " , not per month.

 

It all comes down to choice: what outcomes does one wish to create in

one's life.

 

One thing overlooked in the present discussion, but about which I've

written before, is the transport of hormones from the dead animal into

us. The animals KNOWS it is about to be killed. The animal is

terrified (who wouldn't be!) and goes into a fight-or-flight response,

releasing the adrenal hormone set throughout its system. We eat

these, overload on them, and become quite a bit more agitated, even

violent, than we would otherwise be. We diminish our intelligence and

our vitality, because blood flow is redirected AWAY from our forebrain

(reason, language, problem solving, creativity) and TOWARD our

hindbrain (protection), AWAY from our central organs and TOWARD our

arms and legs (for running and/or fighting).

 

This, in a nutshell, is why there are no vegetarian armies. The

phrase itself is an oxymoron.

 

Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood

<rawfood%40> [

rawfood <rawfood%40>] On Behalf Of

Erica Sunday, September 16,

2007 4:09 PM rawfood <rawfood%40>

[Raw Food] Re: Eskimo Longevity and Meat Consumption [brief]

If you eat raw veggies and fruit the vast majority of the time (which

is definitely the way to go!), and had a5-ounce organic (cooked) steak

say 2 or

3 times a month or something,the ill-health effects of that meat (IF ANY!)

will be well under the background noise contribution of industrial

pollutants we expose ourselves willingly to every single day and night,

24/7/365.25. Iknow the China study showed a correlation of disease to

meat eating right down to zero meat-eating, but that was with cooked

veggies which are far inferior to raw ones.

 

Honestly, this does nothing to prove meat is healthy. Basically, you

are saying here that if you minimalize the bad (steak) and up your

good food (raw vegan foods), you should be able to " get away " with

eating the bad stuff.

Nobody here would ever argue that - of course that makes perfect

sense. Ditto for drinking aspartame-laced carbonated drinks once once

a week if you follow a cleansing diet the rest of the month. But...

does that mean we SHOULD eat aspartame? even a " good quality "

aspartame? Obviously the body can deal with a lot of abuse or few

Americans would be alive right now... This is not really an

" argument " , nor does it prove anything. Meat is still inhumane and

meat is still unhealthy.