Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 I share your concerns, Elchanan, but you are misstating and misrepresenting the facts. Public can refer to " government " or " the people, " among other things. Here is the definition of " Public " from Black's Law Dictionary (note that it can be used as a noun and an adjective): " Public (n): The whole body politic, or the aggregate of the citizens of a state, nation, or municipality. The inhabitants of a state, county, or community. In one sense, everybody, and accordingly, the body of people at large; the community at large, without reference to the geographical limits of any corporation like a city, town, or country; the people. In another sense, the word does not mean all the people, nor most of the people, nor very many of the people of a place, but so many of them as contradistinguishes them from a few. Accordingly, it has been defined or employed as meaning the inhabitants of a particular place; the people of the neighborhood. Also, a part oft he inhabitants of a community. " " Public (adj): Pertaining to a state, nation, or whole community; proceeding from, relating to, or affecting the whole body of people or an entire community. Open to all; notorious. Common to all or many; general; open to common use. Belonging to the people at large; relating to or affecting the whole people of a state, nation, or community; not limited to or restricted to any particular class of the community. " Citing case law is meaningless. Case law is constantly being refined, overruled, or revised. The term " public " is continuously altered and opinioned in jurisprudence depending on the actual case. That is why, in law, public refers to a noun, or to an adjective; and the term usage even varies from state to state. " Public " modifies many legal terms (from Public Advocate to Public Character to Public Domain to Public Place to Public Welfare). These terms may or may not have a governmental affiliation. BTW, Black's law dictionary is used by judges, lawyers, and scholars alike. I believe the " world works as it does " not because the social contract structure (government) has gone afoul, but because the individual citizens (including the public servants) have gone afoul. That's the animal nature--selfishness and self-interest. When the individual citizens reform themselves, the system will work just fine. My theology teaches me that service to others is of the highest spiritual and cultural value. There is a moment in the movie " First Knight " where King Arthur is educating the newcomer Lancelot about his " kingom " . He points to the round table inscription: " By serving others, we serve ourselves. " This ends this discussion. It is extrememly off-topic and no longer relevant. Moving on... tev Elchanan <Elchanan wrote: Tev, In law, the word " public " means government, period. This is well documented by the United States Supreme Court in the Dartmouth College case (1819) and reaffirmed variously, as well as in the common law. The JOB of every " public servant " is to serve the government. That a few also attempt to serve We, the People speaks well of those individual men and women, of course. But their JOB is to serve the government ... they have all chosen to contract the services as such (whether or not they comprehended the contract into which they entered). That's the law, and it is quite unambiguous in this regard. The impact goes far. For example, all " public-benefit corporations " exist to benefit the government. This includes ALL corporations with which most people are familiar ... for-profit, nonprofit, religious, educational, scientific, etc. Once we comprehend this fundamental distinction in the law, we can begin to comprehend why the world works as it does, why corporations and individual people have the same " rights " , why much of the constitution seems to have little or no force and effect in our daily lives, and so forth. Elchanan _____ ____________________ The experience of dynamic religious living transforms the mediocre individual into a personality of idealistic power. Religion ministers to the progress of all through fostering the progress of each individual, and the progress of each is augmented through the achievement of all. [The Urantia Book: 1094:1][http://www.urantia.org/] _____________________ http://www.vegconnect.com/ _____________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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