Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Thank you to all with your replies. Yes, I was thinking about the X% raw thing and wondering just how I would know how RAW I was, HA!!!!! Today I went to the Whole Foods store and I bout 2 recipe books on Raw foods. Many of them look wonderful and honestly I feel that they will be EASY transitions to make. Luckily I have been Organic for a few years and Raw Fruits and Veggies have been common place here. I'm not so concerned about the ADDING the Raw to my diet as I am about taking OUT the things that I know I LIKE.... I am thinking those things that I LIKE will be in my small X% part of my diet. So is any food that has been heated over 118 degrees considered not raw? What about Raw cheeses and the like? I know many people don't do the Dairy thing but we do enjoy Dairy here. Although I AM planning on making the Almond Milk and using that a lot. We have Dairy Goats here so Raw Goat milk is plentiful. I don't continuously milk our goats though, I milk them while they are nursing their babies naturally and when they wean the babies I also stop milking them. This way they are not being milked 364 days a year and only how their bodies naturally produce. Also are all dried or dehydrated foods raw????? I am so looking forward to all the knowledge I will gain here and I look forward to keeping you posted on my progress. I have not officially started my raw diet yet. Thursday is my organic coop food day. We go to a food coop that gets organic produce and all sorts of other things at a much cheaper price then buying at the stores. So I am compiling my list to place an order for Thursdays delivery. Would it be ok if I shared my list with you all and you could look it over and then offer a few suggestions on some other things I may want to consider getting. These are just a few things from the recipe books that I saw today what I was planning on preparing. My Shopping List ~ Raw Almonds Raw Cashews Alfalfa seeds (for sprouting) Brocc. Seeds (for sprouting) Cheese Cloth Avocados Limes Lemons Garlic Herbs Lettuce Tomatoes Medjool dates Carob powder Dried shredded coconut Oranges Bananas Young Thai Coconuts Apples I already have at home Agave, olive oil, sunflower oil, coconut oil. I want to get some Vanilla beans. Does it have to say RAW on the label or are any vanilla beans raw? Roberta Roberta Underhill ~ Juice Plus ~ Because You're Family Is Worth It Visit " My Space " My Farm girl Haven & My Homestead Blog rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Elchanan Monday, July 30, 2007 11:05 AM rawfood [Raw Food] New to Raw Diet and have some ?'s ... Posts for Beginners Hi Roberta, and welcome to a new adventure!!! The most important thing: if you find yourself experimenting and going " forward and back " , just treat yourself with kindness and patience. Rome was not built in a day. Book: The 80/10/10 Diet, by Dr. Douglas Graham, available through his Web site at www.foodnsport.com/811. There are many approaches to raw, and most end up teaching people to take/eat stimulants ... chocolate, various herbs, supplements, powders, etc. But it is possible to create for oneself a diet that is so very pure and simple that one needs no stimulants, supplements, or the like. The 80/10/10 approach will take you in this direction, if you wish to go there. One widespread misconception in the RF world is that " if it's raw, it's good for you " . This is simply false. Dairy provides a great example: yes, unpasteurized dairy is indeed raw. But that does not address that the content of, say, cow's milk, is dramatically different than the content of human mother's milk. Nor does it address that ALL mammals are designed to wean, then never to consume milk again. Nature's design is quite consistent in this regard. I suggest that you forget about all notions of X% raw, as most people have no idea how to perform such a calculation, anyway. Most statements to the effect that " I am X% raw " are completely vacuous. You will progress as you progress. Success means reasonable progress toward a worthwhile goal. Using that definition, you are already succeeding! You don't need any equipment to begin ... just begin introducing fresh, whole, ripe, raw, organic or better fruits and tender greens into your diet. As you fill up on these, other foods will simply fall by the wayside, over time. One easy way to get started is at breakfast ... simplify and introduce fruits. Ideally, you'd eat AS MUCH AS YOU WANT of any fruit you like for breakfast. Start there and keep posting! Here are some posts presently in the group archive that you may find helpful as you begin. Posts grouped in square brackets " go together " , so to speak. 32361, 30764, 30679, 18062, 32643, [32590, 32596, & 32626], 31951, [18198 & 18199], 18191, 18073, 18129, [16198, 14536, & 14573], 18015, 18029, 18031, 18062, 18139 Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Roberta Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:50 AM rawfood [Raw Food] New to Raw Diet and have some ?'s I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an organic food person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet. I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I will have the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my questions..... Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new Raw Foodist for recipes and ideas? Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I have been drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that would still be ok? What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70% Raw????? What would the other 30% consist of? I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer yet. Can anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer? Thanks so much for all your help in this journey. Roberta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Dear Roberta, I would listen to Elchanan. He seems to be very expertise on all areas of this topic. Sounds like a very supportive individual also. -- Philip rawfood , " Roberta " <rradunderhill wrote: > > Thank you to all with your replies. Yes, I was thinking about the X% raw > thing and wondering just how I would know how RAW I was, HA!!!!! > > Today I went to the Whole Foods store and I bout 2 recipe books on Raw > foods. Many of them look wonderful and honestly I feel that they will be > EASY transitions to make. Luckily I have been Organic for a few years and > Raw Fruits and Veggies have been common place here. I'm not so concerned > about the ADDING the Raw to my diet as I am about taking OUT the things that > I know I LIKE.... I am thinking those things that I LIKE will be in my small > X% part of my diet. > > So is any food that has been heated over 118 degrees considered not raw? > What about Raw cheeses and the like? > > I know many people don't do the Dairy thing but we do enjoy Dairy here. > Although I AM planning on making the Almond Milk and using that a lot. We > have Dairy Goats here so Raw Goat milk is plentiful. I don't continuously > milk our goats though, I milk them while they are nursing their babies > naturally and when they wean the babies I also stop milking them. This way > they are not being milked 364 days a year and only how their bodies > naturally produce. > > Also are all dried or dehydrated foods raw????? > > I am so looking forward to all the knowledge I will gain here and I look > forward to keeping you posted on my progress. I have not officially started > my raw diet yet. Thursday is my organic coop food day. We go to a food coop > that gets organic produce and all sorts of other things at a much cheaper > price then buying at the stores. So I am compiling my list to place an order > for Thursdays delivery. Would it be ok if I shared my list with you all and > you could look it over and then offer a few suggestions on some other things > I may want to consider getting. These are just a few things from the recipe > books that I saw today what I was planning on preparing. > > My Shopping List ~ > Raw Almonds > Raw Cashews > Alfalfa seeds (for sprouting) > Brocc. Seeds (for sprouting) > Cheese Cloth > Avocados > Limes > Lemons > Garlic > Herbs > Lettuce > Tomatoes > Medjool dates > Carob powder > Dried shredded coconut > Oranges > Bananas > Young Thai Coconuts > Apples > > I already have at home Agave, olive oil, sunflower oil, coconut oil. > > I want to get some Vanilla beans. Does it have to say RAW on the label or > are any vanilla beans raw? > > Roberta > > > > Roberta Underhill > ~ Juice Plus ~ > Because You're Family Is Worth It > > Visit " My Space " > My Farm girl Haven & My Homestead Blog > > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Elchanan > Monday, July 30, 2007 11:05 AM > rawfood > [Raw Food] New to Raw Diet and have some ?'s ... Posts for > Beginners > > Hi Roberta, and welcome to a new adventure!!! The most important thing: if > you find yourself experimenting and going " forward and back " , just treat > yourself with kindness and patience. Rome was not built in a day. > > Book: The 80/10/10 Diet, by Dr. Douglas Graham, available through his Web > site at www.foodnsport.com/811. > > There are many approaches to raw, and most end up teaching people to > take/eat stimulants ... chocolate, various herbs, supplements, powders, etc. > But it is possible to create for oneself a diet that is so very pure and > simple that one needs no stimulants, supplements, or the like. The 80/10/10 > approach will take you in this direction, if you wish to go there. > > One widespread misconception in the RF world is that " if it's raw, it's good > for you " . This is simply false. Dairy provides a great example: yes, > unpasteurized dairy is indeed raw. But that does not address that the > content of, say, cow's milk, is dramatically different than the content of > human mother's milk. Nor does it address that ALL mammals are designed to > wean, then never to consume milk again. Nature's design is quite consistent > in this regard. > > I suggest that you forget about all notions of X% raw, as most people have > no idea how to perform such a calculation, anyway. Most statements to the > effect that " I am X% raw " are completely vacuous. You will progress as you > progress. Success means reasonable progress toward a worthwhile goal. Using > that definition, you are already succeeding! > > You don't need any equipment to begin ... just begin introducing fresh, > whole, ripe, raw, organic or better fruits and tender greens into your diet. > As you fill up on these, other foods will simply fall by the wayside, over > time. One easy way to get started is at breakfast ... simplify and introduce > fruits. Ideally, you'd eat AS MUCH AS YOU WANT of any fruit you like for > breakfast. Start there and keep posting! > > Here are some posts presently in the group archive that you may find helpful > as you begin. Posts grouped in square brackets " go together " , so to speak. > > 32361, 30764, 30679, 18062, 32643, [32590, 32596, & 32626], 31951, [18198 & > 18199], 18191, 18073, 18129, [16198, 14536, & 14573], 18015, 18029, 18031, > 18062, 18139 > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Roberta > Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:50 AM > rawfood > [Raw Food] New to Raw Diet and have some ?'s > > > I am just bginning this Raw Food way of life. I watched 30 Days Raw > yesterday and it was rather convincing to me. I have been an organic food > person for a long time but have never followed a Raw Diet. > > I'm kind of nervous about the whole thing and I am hoping that I will have > the self discipline to stick to it. So here are some of my questions..... > > Are there any books or websites that you would recommend to a new Raw > Foodist for recipes and ideas? > > Would Raw Dairy (milk/cheese) be considered ok on a raw diet? I have been > drinking raw milk for about a year now and am wondering if that would still > be ok? > > What is a good % to start out with in going Raw? Like 70% Raw????? What > would the other 30% consist of? > > I want to start with a 3 day Juice Fast but I don't have a Juicer yet. Can > anyone recommend how I can do a juice fast without a juicer? > > Thanks so much for all your help in this journey. > > Roberta > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 " Dear Roberta, I would listen to Elchanan. He seems to be very expertise on all areas of this topic. Sounds like a very supportive individual also. -- Philip rawfood@ .com, " Roberta " <rradunderhill@ ...> wrote: > > Thank you to all with your replies. Yes, I was thinking about the X% raw > thing and wondering just how I would know how RAW I was, HA!!!!! > > Today I went to the Whole Foods store and I bout 2 recipe books on Raw > foods. Many of them look wonderful and honestly I feel that they will be > EASY transitions to make. Luckily I have been Organic for a few years and > Raw Fruits and Veggies have been common place here. I'm not so concerned > about the ADDING the Raw to my diet as I am about taking OUT the things that > I know I LIKE.... I am thinking those things that I LIKE will be in my small > X% part of my diet. > > So is any food that has been heated over 118 degrees considered not raw? > What about Raw cheeses and the like? > > I know many people don't do the Dairy thing but we do enjoy Dairy here. > Although I AM planning on making the Almond Milk and using that a lot. We > have Dairy Goats here so Raw Goat milk is plentiful. I don't continuously > milk our goats though, I milk them while they are nursing their babies > naturally and when they wean the babies I also stop milking them. This way > they are not being milked 364 days a year and only how their bodies > naturally produce. > > Also are all dried or dehydrated foods raw????? > > I am so looking forward to all the knowledge I will gain here and I look > forward to keeping you posted on my progress. I have not officially started > my raw diet yet. Thursday is my organic coop food day. We go to a food coop > that gets organic produce and all sorts of other things at a much cheaper > price then buying at the stores. So I am compiling my list to place an order > for Thursdays delivery. Would it be ok if I shared my list with you all and > you could look it over and then offer a few suggestions on some other things > I may want to consider getting. These are just a few things from the recipe > books that I saw today what I was planning on preparing. > > My Shopping List ~ > Raw Almonds > Raw Cashews > Alfalfa seeds (for sprouting) > Brocc. Seeds (for sprouting) > Cheese Cloth > Avocados > Limes > Lemons > Garlic > Herbs > Lettuce > Tomatoes > Medjool dates > Carob powder > Dried shredded coconut > Oranges > Bananas > Young Thai Coconuts > Apples > > I already have at home Agave, olive oil, sunflower oil, coconut oil. > > I want to get some Vanilla beans. Does it have to say RAW on the label or > are any vanilla beans raw? > > Roberta " Roberta, you can just get regular vanilla beans and you'll be fine. They don't have to say " raw " . Your shopping list looks great and is full of typical things raw foodists eat and love. With the exception of the goat milk, which may be " raw " but is not healthy. Other than that, you can YOUTUBE (www.youtube.com) many great raw chefs in action, showing how to make simple, tasty foods! Once again, totally go to the following site and check out the " virtual " recipe book! You won't BELIEVE what people are making, or how easy it is! http://www.rawfreedomcommunity.info/forum/index.php Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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