From rage toward compassion and trust

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Hi Caron,

 

Love your last sentence... lighthearted ending made me laugh out loud!

 

And I agree, as I commented earlier today, I perceive much rage in certain

people here. A healthful diet tends to bring such things to the surface. At

that point, where each of us goes with whatever comes up is a matter of

choices...and also a matter of a sense of possibility. Some have been

immersed in such rage for so many years, they may not see another path

available before them.

 

I believe I was in that boat for much of my life. I knew things were very,

very wrong. yet I could not constructively express what was wrong, and I

surely had not the slightest idea -- absolutely no sense of possibility at

all -- as to another way of being and living. Because of my own experiences,

I now tend toward compassion in response to such writings (though I admit

that is not always my first response, inside).

 

Everyone here is intelligent, each man and woman interprets what various

people share in light of his/her own background and beliefs. We must all

simply trust one another, believing that each of us dues his/her best and

uses his/her endowed capabilities for awareness in ways that serve the

highest and best good.

 

Speaking for myself, during my early years exploring raw food and healthful

living, I did not have anyone who would offer in-depth explanations such as

I attempt to share here. There was no 80/10/10, there were few substantive

materials and books such as are available today. If Soil & Health Library

was available, I was unaware of its existence. And so I made many painful,

demoralizing, awful mistakes along the way. I fasted for more than a month,

then lost almost all that I had gained. I understood much information, but

nothing comes together, nothing worked. Over time, I learned to distinguish

the core paradigms and principles that would lead humans toward health, and

I discovered and organized the information needed to comprehend and

successfully implement those principles. Eventually, I came to realize that

the solutions lie largely outside food, in my emotional growth and

development, and particularly in rewriting much of my own subconscious

programming. Out of that I created the Dynamic Self-Discovery work I've

mentioned here.

 

Sometimes, I do speak with considerable directness and a strong sense of

clarity. I do this because, after all that I have experienced, I experienced

great joy whenever I can open it and take a shorter, more direct path to

success. Not only with the food... honestly, that's the easy part, by far.

But also with paradigm shifts and with the emotional growth and changes that

become available along the way. That's where most of the " home runs " lie.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Tuesday, July 10, 2007 6:52 PM

rawfood

Re: cipes are GOOD! [Raw Food] Bored with raw

 

 

Hi Janie

 

I like to think it's not meant to be rudeness, but I do feel a lot of

hostility coming from a lot of posts by this person...rage seems a pretty

apt term to use for it. It's part of the reason I hesitated a few weeks

before making my first post here, as a few people seemed to be getting

attacked for every post they made. I've noticed it quite a few times since.

I realise we all have different opinions and points of view, the same is

true of any group of two or more people...sometimes in a group of one! But

it is possible to have these differing points of view, and still exist

harmoniously. I could do with a bit more harmony in my diet.

 

Caron

 

 

 

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Elchanan

>Hi Caron,

Love your last sentence... lighthearted ending made me laugh out loud!

 

glad I could give you a laugh ) Or should I be - it is, after all, said to

be the best medicine ;oP

 

Unfortunately, I wasn't entirely joking, feeling rather unharmonious lately

(mostly foods, I know, in that they contribute to brain function, whether

fuzzy or otherwise. I'm feeling like I NEED a fast, but things are a bit all

over the place at the moment, I need to be able to sit down and focus)

 

>And I agree, as I commented earlier today, I perceive much rage in certain

people here. A healthful diet tends to bring such things to the surface. At

that point, where each of us goes with whatever comes up is a matter of

choices...and also a matter of a sense of possibility. Some have been

immersed in such rage for so many years, they may not see another path

available before them.

 

I've been camping at that corner for a while - trouble is, I was never

taught as a child how to properly express emotions, just that some are good,

and should be felt all the time, while some are bad and should never be felt

or you can go to your room! The only answers I've been able to find as an

adult have been along the lines of " do something else so you're distracted

from your *insert " negative " emotion here* " . No one seems to know how to

feel, and remain sane and in one piece.

 

>I believe I was in that boat for much of my life. I knew things were very,

very wrong. yet I could not constructively express what was wrong, and I

surely had not the slightest idea -- absolutely no sense of possibility at

all -- as to another way of being and living. Because of my own experiences,

I now tend toward compassion in response to such writings (though I admit

that is not always my first response, inside).

 

hehe, mine either - I usually delete my first few replies ;o)

 

 

I really do appreciate your straight answers, and the fact that you are

willing to offer directions, rather than leaving us, or me at least, to fend

for myself and find my own way, I'd probably get hopelessly lost. I

appreciate those who've gone before, who've done the research, and can offer

some real life examples of how things work. I know there are things I need

to find out on my own, and I'm quite willing to do that, it just helps to

have someone to bounce ideas off, and see whether my logic is actual logic,

or if I'm completely off track.

 

I value the information that each member of this group is able to offer,

because each bit gives me yet another sounding board, it will either

resonate, or sound a bit off-key, but it all helps me figure out exactly

what I'm thinking, and help all those little pieces fall into place.

 

Caron

-queen of the mixed metaphor...or imigary, or something...so tired.