Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Yah, I've run into that one OFTEN. Ethnicity is no barrier to the lack of understanding that conventional flour is made from wheat. I would say that probably 3 out of 4 people to whom I have mentioned my need to avoid wheat have nodded sympathetically and then asked " But you can eat flour, right? " or when I have politely and reluctantly declined to accept their home-made cookies, they defensively assert " There's no wheat in them, only flour! " Over the years, my expectations of food awareness of the general public has dropped to the point that I've often felt like putting a gold star on the foreheads of those who have asked " Does that mean you can't have flour? " When possible, I take the opportunity to do a little ad hoc nutrition education and answer something to the effect of " Actually, I can have gluten-free fllour, just not flour made from wheat, rye, barley, rye or oats. " That statement is typically greeted with silence and blinking incomprehension. The implication that flour can be made from grains other than wheat baffles as many people as those who have no idea that conventional flour is wheat. It seems that many people don't think about what they eat, they just eat what is handy, tastes good and resembles what Mom put in front of them. It reminds me of a non-vegetarian joke about a young bride making her first roast of beef. Her new husband watches her slice off the end of the roast and place the raw meat into a large pan. " Why did you cut off the end like that? " he asks. She thinks for a minute. " I don't know " she says. " It's just what my Mom always did. " It turns out that the mother's roasting pan was a little too small for the size of roast she always bought, so she'd sliced off a chunk to make it fit. :-) Deborah A few years ago I went into a healthy mexican food chain restaurant, hoping to get some veggies in a corn something or other. A very pleasant and sincere young man asked to take my order and I began by telling him I would be very ill if I happened to eat any wheat. He interrupted me with a big smile on his face and assured me there would be no problem because all of their tortillas were made with flour. This young man spoke English perfectly well, with no accent or anything else that might suggest that English was not his first language. I was so startled I was actually speechless for a moment. I ended up learning that their taco shells did not have any wheat OR flour Steve Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 My husband had real problems with that too. The first few months were a constant repetition of " so is white flour okay? " " is 100% whole wheat okay? " I am finding that most people with a passing understanding of gluten-free now know about rice flour, but that is about the only non-wheat flour that they " get " . Some think you have to avoid all grains, and some think you only have to avoid wheat. Pam On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Deborah Pageau <dpageau wrote: > Yah, I've run into that one OFTEN. Ethnicity is no barrier to the lack of > understanding that conventional flour is made from wheat. I would say that > probably 3 out of 4 people to whom I have mentioned my need to avoid wheat > have nodded sympathetically and then asked " But you can eat flour, right? " > or when I have politely and reluctantly declined to accept their home-made > cookies, they defensively assert " There's no wheat in them, only flour! " > > Over the years, my expectations of food awareness of the general public has > dropped to the point that I've often felt like putting a gold star on the > foreheads of those who have asked " Does that mean you can't have flour? " > When possible, I take the opportunity to do a little ad hoc nutrition > education and answer something to the effect of " Actually, I can have > gluten-free fllour, just not flour made from wheat, rye, barley, rye or > oats. " That statement is typically greeted with silence and blinking > incomprehension. The implication that flour can be made from grains other > than wheat baffles as many people as those who have no idea that > conventional flour is wheat. > > It seems that many people don't think about what they eat, they just eat > what is handy, tastes good and resembles what Mom put in front of them. It > reminds me of a non-vegetarian joke about a young bride making her first > roast of beef. Her new husband watches her slice off the end of the roast > and place the raw meat into a large pan. " Why did you cut off the end like > that? " he asks. She thinks for a minute. " I don't know " she says. " It's just > what my Mom always did. " It turns out that the mother's roasting pan was a > little too small for the size of roast she always bought, so she'd sliced > off a chunk to make it fit. :-) > > Deborah > > > A few years ago I went into a healthy mexican food chain restaurant, > hoping to get some veggies in a corn something or other. > > A very pleasant and sincere young man asked to take my order and I > began by telling him I would be very ill if I happened to eat any > wheat. He interrupted me with a big smile on his face and assured me > there would be no problem because all of their tortillas were made > with flour. > > This young man spoke English perfectly well, with no accent or > anything else that might suggest that English was not his first > language. I was so startled I was actually speechless for a > moment. I ended up learning that their taco shells did not have any > wheat OR flour > > Steve Rider > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 And with multiple food restrictions, restaurants will often assume you can't have seasonings, too! Just because I don't want butter doesn't mean you can't use olive oil. I really appreciate restaurants that are chef-driven, because the chefs tend to actually understand that the food restrictions mean there's a lot left that I can have. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:13 PM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > My husband had real problems with that too. The first few months were > a constant repetition of " so is white flour okay? " " is 100% whole > wheat okay? " > > I am finding that most people with a passing understanding of > gluten-free now know about rice flour, but that is about the only > non-wheat flour that they " get " . > > Some think you have to avoid all grains, and some think you only have > to avoid wheat. > > Pam > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Deborah Pageau <dpageau<dpageau%40dccnet.com>> > wrote: > > Yah, I've run into that one OFTEN. Ethnicity is no barrier to the lack of > > understanding that conventional flour is made from wheat. I would say > that > > probably 3 out of 4 people to whom I have mentioned my need to avoid > wheat > > have nodded sympathetically and then asked " But you can eat flour, > right? " > > or when I have politely and reluctantly declined to accept their > home-made > > cookies, they defensively assert " There's no wheat in them, only flour! " > > > > Over the years, my expectations of food awareness of the general public > has > > dropped to the point that I've often felt like putting a gold star on the > > foreheads of those who have asked " Does that mean you can't have flour? " > > When possible, I take the opportunity to do a little ad hoc nutrition > > education and answer something to the effect of " Actually, I can have > > gluten-free fllour, just not flour made from wheat, rye, barley, rye or > > oats. " That statement is typically greeted with silence and blinking > > incomprehension. The implication that flour can be made from grains other > > than wheat baffles as many people as those who have no idea that > > conventional flour is wheat. > > > > It seems that many people don't think about what they eat, they just eat > > what is handy, tastes good and resembles what Mom put in front of them. > It > > reminds me of a non-vegetarian joke about a young bride making her first > > roast of beef. Her new husband watches her slice off the end of the roast > > and place the raw meat into a large pan. " Why did you cut off the end > like > > that? " he asks. She thinks for a minute. " I don't know " she says. " It's > just > > what my Mom always did. " It turns out that the mother's roasting pan was > a > > little too small for the size of roast she always bought, so she'd sliced > > off a chunk to make it fit. :-) > > > > Deborah > > > > > > A few years ago I went into a healthy mexican food chain restaurant, > > hoping to get some veggies in a corn something or other. > > > > A very pleasant and sincere young man asked to take my order and I > > began by telling him I would be very ill if I happened to eat any > > wheat. He interrupted me with a big smile on his face and assured me > > there would be no problem because all of their tortillas were made > > with flour. > > > > This young man spoke English perfectly well, with no accent or > > anything else that might suggest that English was not his first > > language. I was so startled I was actually speechless for a > > moment. I ended up learning that their taco shells did not have any > > wheat OR flour > > > > Steve Rider > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Have you ever gotten, " it's made with whole wheat flour so there's no gluten and it's healthy for you! " ? I got that from a woman passing out samples in a store once. She was under the impression that celiac only meant gluten and somehow there was no gluten in whole wheat! How could there not be? I'm thinking about making up little booklets I can just politely offer to people explaining it all quickly and simply! On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:13 PM, pdw <pdworkman wrote: > My husband had real problems with that too. The first few months were > a constant repetition of " so is white flour okay? " " is 100% whole > wheat okay? " > > I am finding that most people with a passing understanding of > gluten-free now know about rice flour, but that is about the only > non-wheat flour that they " get " . > > Some think you have to avoid all grains, and some think you only have > to avoid wheat. > > Pam > - Show quoted text - > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Deborah Pageau <dpageau<dpageau%40dccnet.com>> > wrote: > > Yah, I've run into that one OFTEN. Ethnicity is no barrier to the lack of > > understanding that conventional flour is made from wheat. I would say > that > > probably 3 out of 4 people to whom I have mentioned my need to avoid > wheat > > have nodded sympathetically and then asked " But you can eat flour, > right? " > > or when I have politely and reluctantly declined to accept their > home-made > > cookies, they defensively assert " There's no wheat in them, only flour! " > > > > Over the years, my expectations of food awareness of the general public > has > > dropped to the point that I've often felt like putting a gold star on the > > foreheads of those who have asked " Does that mean you can't have flour? " > > When possible, I take the opportunity to do a little ad hoc nutrition > > education and answer something to the effect of " Actually, I can have > > gluten-free fllour, just not flour made from wheat, rye, barley, rye or > > oats. " That statement is typically greeted with silence and blinking > > incomprehension. The implication that flour can be made from grains other > > than wheat baffles as many people as those who have no idea that > > conventional flour is wheat. > > > > It seems that many people don't think about what they eat, they just eat > > what is handy, tastes good and resembles what Mom put in front of them. > It > > reminds me of a non-vegetarian joke about a young bride making her first > > roast of beef. Her new husband watches her slice off the end of the roast > > and place the raw meat into a large pan. " Why did you cut off the end > like > > that? " he asks. She thinks for a minute. " I don't know " she says. " It's > just > > what my Mom always did. " It turns out that the mother's roasting pan was > a > > little too small for the size of roast she always bought, so she'd sliced > > off a chunk to make it fit. :-) > > > > Deborah > > > > > > A few years ago I went into a healthy mexican food chain restaurant, > > hoping to get some veggies in a corn something or other. > > > > A very pleasant and sincere young man asked to take my order and I > > began by telling him I would be very ill if I happened to eat any > > wheat. He interrupted me with a big smile on his face and assured me > > there would be no problem because all of their tortillas were made > > with flour. > > > > This young man spoke English perfectly well, with no accent or > > anything else that might suggest that English was not his first > > language. I was so startled I was actually speechless for a > > moment. I ended up learning that their taco shells did not have any > > wheat OR flour > > > > Steve Rider > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 I once had a chef insist that Panko was gluten free...I had to insist that he pull out the box and show him where it said the word wheat on the ingredient list. In a message dated 3/4/2009 6:47:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, sherene writes: On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Deborah Pageau wrote: > Yah, I've run into that one OFTEN. Ethnicity is no barrier to the > lack of understanding that conventional flour is made from wheat. I > would say that probably 3 out of 4 people to whom I have mentioned > my need to avoid wheat have nodded sympathetically and then asked > " But you can eat flour, right? " ============= here's one for the books. My daughter is in a Nature Club with a bunch of little girls. The leader is hte mom of one of the girls and our allergist's wife She made cookies with the girls a few weeks ago and happily told Shira that they were wheat free because they had white flour, not wheat flour. luckily Shira refused to eat hte cookies but she became very sick from the entire baking process. the woman was mortified to discover what she's done. I was shocked that a woman working on her Ph.D., who is a master gardener, did not know white flour was wheat flour Sherene **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies & ncid=emlcntusyelp00\ 000005) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 On Mar 4, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Deborah Pageau wrote: > Yah, I've run into that one OFTEN. Ethnicity is no barrier to the > lack of understanding that conventional flour is made from wheat. I > would say that probably 3 out of 4 people to whom I have mentioned > my need to avoid wheat have nodded sympathetically and then asked > " But you can eat flour, right? " ============= here's one for the books. My daughter is in a Nature Club with a bunch of little girls. The leader is hte mom of one of the girls and our allergist's wife She made cookies with the girls a few weeks ago and happily told Shira that they were wheat free because they had white flour, not wheat flour. luckily Shira refused to eat hte cookies but she became very sick from the entire baking process. the woman was mortified to discover what she's done. I was shocked that a woman working on her Ph.D., who is a master gardener, did not know white flour was wheat flour Sherene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 These stories are too funny (and a little scary). I know it's not the same, but I have to share what I just read on a Raw Vegan board. (For those of you who don't know, Raw Living foods are not supposed to be warmed to more than 115-118 degrees or so, and it says this all over the forums): In response to one woman's question- " I'm looking for a substitute or way to prepare oatmeal now that we are on a Raw diet. Does anyone have any suggestions? " One person answered, " just add the oatmeal to boiling water. I know you can't eat 'cooked' food, but this is just boiling water. " This tickled me to no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 LOL. Yep, just when you think you've heard them all . . . Pam On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Amethyst <amemahoney wrote: > These stories are too funny (and a little scary). I know it's not the same, > but I have to share what I just read on a Raw Vegan board. (For those of you > who don't know, Raw Living foods are not supposed to be warmed to more than > 115-118 degrees or so, and it says this all over the forums): > > In response to one woman's question- " I'm looking for a substitute or way to > prepare oatmeal now that we are on a Raw diet. Does anyone have any > suggestions? " > > One person answered, " just add the oatmeal to boiling water. I know you > can't eat 'cooked' food, but this is just boiling water. " > > This tickled me to no end. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Oh yah. I hardly know whether to laugh or cry, really. Although, when I think back, I remember my own ignorance. For example, I ate a high protein, low carb diet as a teenager to lose weight. Thankfully, I could only bear it for short periods of time and I lived to tell the tale. When I feel frustrated at the remaining ignorance, I guess the best thing I can do is be thankful for the Guidance that directs me on a health-supporting Path and hope for others to be also assisted in this way. Deborah These stories are too funny (and a little scary). I know it's not the same, but I have to share what I just read on a Raw Vegan board. (For those of you who don't know, Raw Living foods are not supposed to be warmed to more than 115-118 degrees or so, and it says this all over the forums): In response to one woman's question- " I'm looking for a substitute or way to prepare oatmeal now that we are on a Raw diet. Does anyone have any suggestions? " One person answered, " just add the oatmeal to boiling water. I know you can't eat 'cooked' food, but this is just boiling water. " This tickled me to no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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