a few questions

[Guest guest]

Dave,

 

I used to brown the beef and prepare the instant rice, THEN stuff the

peppers and bake for one hour. Does this help?

 

Laurie

[Guest guest]

, " Laurie " <laitaina@h...>

wrote:

> Dave,

>

> I used to brown the beef and prepare the instant rice, THEN stuff

the

> peppers and bake for one hour. Does this help?

>

> Laurie

 

thanks Laurie stay cool Dave

[Guest guest]

I top my baked potatoes with vegetarian chili.  It is really good that way.  I'm

not sure what else you can do to increase vitamin D than what you are doing. 

I've started taking daily walks outside 20-30 minutes to get some sunshine - not

long enough to burn without sunscreen.  I've been running inside (on the

treadmill) with air conditioning.  Its too hot to 'exercise' outside so I just

take a little stroll and soak up some rays.  If it wasn't so hot running outside

without sunscreen would be the ideal way for me to get vitamin d. There is

vitamin d (vegan source) in soymilk so no reason to consume dairy for it and its

all fortified anyway.  I've read some things though about how its best to make

it yourself from sunlight.  I'm not sure where you live (how easy it is to

obtain) but maybe you could try eating grits a few times a week to improve your

iron intake.

Renee

 

 

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 wrote:

 

sahmomof8 <sahmomof8

A few questions

 

Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:01 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

(which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

 

Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

ideas about using supplements?

 

Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I can help with potato toppings.  Remember the potatoes are part of the " dirty

dozen " and you should really only eat organic.  I love spinach sauteed with

olive oil and garlic on a baked potato; also chopped mushrooms, onions and

broccoli (the purple, if you can find it) sauteed in olive oil.

 

Robin

 

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 wrote:

 

sahmomof8 <sahmomof8

A few questions

 

Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 11:01 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

(which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

 

Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

ideas about using supplements?

 

Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

My fav topping on baked potatoes include salsa, chives, Broc and vegan cheese,

zuchinni and squash with tomatoe sauce, soy crumbles with any of the above,

....hmmmm....I am planning for the weekend dinners. You could even set a few

different toppings out and gave a potato bar, so everyone could make their own.

Oh, and olives are good on the salsa or broc

 

Cassie

" life's a garden, dig it! "

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jul 1, 2008, at 12:01 PM, " sahmomof8 " <sahmomof8 wrote:

 

I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

(which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

 

Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

ideas about using supplements?

 

Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Baked potatoes - top with BBQ sauce - most are fat free - and it's yummy

 

D

 

 

>sahmomof8 <sahmomof8

>Jul 1, 2008 12:01 PM

>

> A few questions

>

>I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

>I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

>back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

>was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

>functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

>(which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

>know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

>

>Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

>which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

>some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

>low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

>and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

>the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

>in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

>ideas about using supplements?

>

>Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

>obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

>anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

>I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

>

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

 

Interesting about your information from Dr. Fuhrman. I have

been wanting to get bloodwork done on myself and my son to find out if we

need to be aware of any particular areas of focus for nutrition. Is it easy

to contact him to ask about what blood tests he ran and where did you go see

him? I would love to contact you offline and learn more if you are okay

with that? I just want to make sure that we are getting what we need and if

not focus our efforts in that area. For the iron, do you cook with an iron

skillet? That might be a way of adding additional iron into the diet- not

sure about vitamin D other than making sure that you have a few minutes of

sunscreen free time in the sun each day- if you are out but using a

sunscreen your body may not be able to absorb what it needs- I believe I

have read that it blocks it.

 

 

 

For baked potatoes, when my husband and I went to England a few

years back we were in Glastonbury at this little vegan hippie place. They

had " jacket " potatoes filled with hummus and broccoli or veggie chili and

they were the most fantastic things ever. I actually had one last week with

a garlic hummus and broccoli and it was delicious, I highly recommend it.

 

 

 

-Paige

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

On

Behalf Of sahmomof8

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:02 AM

 

[Norton AntiSpam] A few questions

 

 

 

I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

(which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

 

Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

ideas about using supplements?

 

Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Wow, you are lucky to have the opportunity to visit Dr. Fuhrman! I've

seen him speak and he really seems to

be on the right track and he should be able to help you a lot.

 

I can help you with the potato question. We have this as a meal

around once per week:

baked potatoes and yams, steamed or braised broccoli, tofu scramble

and salad. Some of us

like to top the baked potatoes with the broccoli and tofu. Some just

like Earth Balance and Spike

and the rest of the stuff on the side. You could try topping it w/ a

drizzle of olive oil? Try not to

use too much, it's 100% fat. Or how about salsa? Totally low-fat and

low cal.

 

Make sure you get enough vitamin C (food and/or supplements) to help

your body assimilate

iron(from food and/or supplements). Some vegan foods are

supplemented w/ vitamin D.

 

Good luck getting yourself functioning again! It could take some

time, but just keep working

at it!

 

Tracy

 

On Jul 1, 2008, at 9:01 AM, sahmomof8 wrote:

 

> I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh

> and

> I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my

> bloodwork

> back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

> was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

> functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

> (which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but

> now I

> know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

>

> Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

> which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

> some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

> low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

> and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

> the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

> in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

> ideas about using supplements?

>

> Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

> obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

> anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

> I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

WOW! I am overwhelmed with all the wonderful responses! Busy day today, and

no time to thank everyone individually for all the wonderful ideas. But for

anyone who had more than just meal ideas in their post, I will answer back as

I can. It's 12 noon, and I haven't even taken time to shower and dress yet,

and the sitter comes in an hour so I can take two of the girls to the dentist.

Gotta run!!!!!! Marilyn

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Good for you fr taking the step to see Dr. Fuhrman. I have read Eat to Live and

also

Disease Proof your child also by him and both just make such great sense. We

are vegan

too and instead of tapping a baked potato with dairy, we use fresh salsa, or

sometimes

make a " cheese " topping by grinding equal parts of nutrition yeast and almonds,

add a

little salt and some garlic powder and it makes a good dry topping for many

things -

pastas, potatoes, DH eats it on tofu scrambles.

 

Do you eat a lot of raw greens? I find my iron is through the roof if I eat raw

greens like

Kale and Spinach - maybe start your morning with a green smoothie - one of my

favorites is 1 banana, 4 oz spinach, and a whole pineapple (about 14 - 16 oz).

 

Not sure what supplements he suggested, but for iron, I did take for a few weeks

when

pregnant Floradix iron - it is vegan (I think) and all from herbs and greens.

It is kind of

expensive, but helped get my iron up when I had abought of prego anemia. Not

sure

what to tell you about the vitamin D other than to go outside for at least 10 -

20

minutes without sunscreen (depnding on where you live as to whether 10 min or 20

will

do it. The further south you live, the less time you need in the sun.

 

HTH

 

Susan

 

, " sahmomof8 " <sahmomof8 wrote:

>

> I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

> I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

> back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

> was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

> functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

> (which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

> know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

>

> Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

> which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

> some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

> low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

> and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

> the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

> in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

> ideas about using supplements?

>

> Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

> obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

> anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

> I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

>

[Guest guest]

vegetarians can be prone to vit B12 deficiency, if no animal

products are eaten. (cause anemia) The only source I know of is

nutritional yeast, fortified products or supplements . As far as

Vitamin D, fortified products and sunshine. I was actually

diagnosed with severely low Vit D after having moved form a very

sunny climite to the cloudy NW. I am taking a very high supplemnent

for 8 weeks prescribed by my doctir to boost my levels. As far as

baked potatoe toppers, I like black beans and veg cheese and

onion; veg chili; broccoli and veg cheese; salsa; veggies, etc

You could sprinkle the nutritional yeasts or make a cheese sauce

with it also.

 

, " sahmomof8 " <sahmomof8 wrote:

>

> I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who

dh and

> I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my

bloodwork

> back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

> was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

> functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

> (which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but

now I

> know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

>

> Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you

guys,

> which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd

like

> some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause

such

> low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly

cycles

> and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to

increase

> the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting

out

> in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions,

comments, or

> ideas about using supplements?

>

> Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

> obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple

ideas,

> anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner,

but

> I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

>

[Guest guest]

I say this with nothing but love for my fellow vegans...Get sunshine!!!

Almost all vegans (and progressives in general) I know avoid the sun like the

plague. SPF a zillion, umbrellas, sunscreen clothes, big hats...it's gotten out

of hand. Yes, overexposure to the sun can cause cancer, but I believe a lot of

people have taken this pendulum swing way too far to the other side. The sun is

healthy. We are animals, animals are out in the sun. Our children need sun.

You can get all the vitamin D you need from the sun. Let's be honest, vitamin D

supplemented foods are inferior. For the first time in a long time, we are

seeing people with rickets. Sunshine doesn't just boost vitamin D levels,

exposure is linked to lower rates of all sorts of illnesses and cancers.

Unfortunately I live in the North, so my son and I cannot have access to the sun

year round due to freezing temperatures, but I do try to get us outside on the

" warmer " winter days. I also have read you can store vitamin D, so I try to

build our stores up in the summer. A fair skinned person will receive 15,000 IU

of vitamin D in just a half hour of sun exposure! No food or supplement can

come close to those numbers.

 

~Sara

 

 

renecarol25

Tue, 1 Jul 2008 11:22:03 -0700

Re: A few questions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I top my baked potatoes with vegetarian chili. It is really good

that way. I'm not sure what else you can do to increase vitamin D than what you

are doing. I've started taking daily walks outside 20-30 minutes to get some

sunshine - not long enough to burn without sunscreen. I've been running inside

(on the treadmill) with air conditioning. Its too hot to 'exercise' outside so

I just take a little stroll and soak up some rays. If it wasn't so hot running

outside without sunscreen would be the ideal way for me to get vitamin d. There

is vitamin d (vegan source) in soymilk so no reason to consume dairy for it and

its all fortified anyway. I've read some things though about how its best to

make it yourself from sunlight. I'm not sure where you live (how easy it is to

obtain) but maybe you could try eating grits a few times a week to improve your

iron intake.

 

Renee

 

 

 

--- On Tue, 7/1/08, sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 wrote:

 

 

 

sahmomof8 <sahmomof8

 

A few questions

 

 

 

Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:01 PM

 

 

 

I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh and

 

I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my bloodwork

 

back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

 

was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

 

functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

 

(which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but now I

 

know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

 

 

 

Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you guys,

 

which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd like

 

some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause such

 

low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly cycles

 

and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to increase

 

the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting out

 

in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments, or

 

ideas about using supplements?

 

 

 

Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

 

obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

 

anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner, but

 

I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In response to the potato question...we like to put vegetarian chili

on top of them and you can buy vegan butter...I think it's Earth

Balance brand.

, " sahmomof8 " <sahmomof8 wrote:

>

> I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who dh

and

> I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my

bloodwork

> back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

> was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

> functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

> (which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but

now I

> know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

>

> Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you

guys,

> which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd

like

> some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause

such

> low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly

cycles

> and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to

increase

> the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting

out

> in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions, comments,

or

> ideas about using supplements?

>

> Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

> obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple ideas,

> anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner,

but

> I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

>

[Guest guest]

I just had a " DUH " moment. I'm going to take everyone's suggestions, and

compile a list, and put the list in a sheet protector, into my looseleaf recipe

notebook. I can't believe I haven't already done this with so many of the

recipes and ideas I've compiled. I bought looseleaf style recipe keepers last

Christmas for my son's girlfriend and my daughter. I also received an extra

one, by mistake. Now I'm glad I did!

 

Marilyn

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are low

as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

knowledgable group.

 

As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa, saucy

baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

considering, trying!!

 

Paula

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

 

T. Colin Campbell's book, the China Study, has some very good info

on Vitamin D. It explains how the vitamin D that you receive from

sunshine or food is turned into the active or " supercharged " vitamin

D that the body actually uses. So it's important not to supress the

production of the supercharged vitamin D. Two things that suppress

it are animal protein (eggs, dairy, flesh) and excessive calcium.

Refer to the book for all the details.

 

This would suggest that we should do well on a plant-based diet and

the right amount of sunshine (or Vitamin D2 supplement).

 

Aside, you mentioned that people can get vitamin D from dairy

products, which is true, but it is not naturallly occurring. Cow

milk (the basis of dairy products) and soy milk both have vitamin D

because they are fortified.

 

I hope you'll let us know what changes you make and the results -

hopefully good!

 

Regards,

Alan

 

 

, " sahmomof8 " <sahmomof8 wrote:

>

> I just heard back from Dr. Fuhrman (he wrote " Eat to Live " ), who

dh and

> I went to see a couple of weeks ago. He got the results of my

bloodwork

> back. He said I was very anemic, and that my vitamin D level

> was " dangerously low " . It's no wonder I have been basically non-

> functional for so long! I blamed it all on being pretty overweight

> (which was one reason we went to see him in the first place), but

now I

> know that really isn't the whole picture, by any means.

>

> Dr. Fuhrman put me on supplements, but I have a question for you

guys,

> which I didn't think to ask him. I still may e-mail him, but I'd

like

> some " mommy feedback " , too. Does anyone know what might cause

such

> low levels of iron and vitamin D in the body (besides monthly

cycles

> and lack of sunshine--I know those)? And what would you do to

increase

> the levels, aside from using dairy products (I can't), or getting

out

> in the sunshine more (I'm trying). Other ideas? Cautions,

comments, or

> ideas about using supplements?

>

> Next question--what can I use to top a baked potato, besides the

> obvious (butter and sour cream, etc.)? Must be vegan. Simple

ideas,

> anyone? I think topped baked potatoes would make a great dinner,

but

> I'm not quite sure what to put on them. Thanks! Marilyn

>

[Guest guest]

Aside, you mentioned that people can get vitamin D from dairy

products, which is true, but it is not naturallly occurring. Cow

milk (the basis of dairy products) and soy milk both have vitamin D

because they are fortified.

 

I don't think I mentioned dairy as an option, at least not for myself,

because I almost never consume dairy. Aside from the known dangers, I am

lactose

intolerant. I'm assuming that aside from sunshine, all sources of vitamin D

are " artificial " ? Marilyn

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

* I'm assuming that aside from sunshine, all sources of vitamin D

are " artificial " ?*

 

eggs and fish contain naturally-occurring vitamin D in the more absorbable

form of cholecalciferol. mushrooms that have sat in the sun for a while

after picking contain natural vitamin D as well. many plant foods contain

natural vitamin D in the form of ergocalciferol, which is not as absorbable

or usable as cholecalciferol. but as many have mentioned, the most

important form of vitamin D is that which our bodies make from sunlight.

when we live in a more overcast environment (we plan to settle in the

pacific northwest) i might consider eating eggs from our own chickens to get

vitamin D. they're going to lay them anyway and vitamin D is too enormously

important for children and women that i might not consider it worth the risk

to depend on ergochalciferol or what we can store on sunny days. i'm not

sure yet.

 

chandelle

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Paula,

 

I was ovo/lacto for about 15 years, then went vegan about 7 years ago. I have a

history

of anemia, but since I went veg over 20 years ago, never really had a problem

with my

iron. Are you getting enough greens in your diet. I find that eating them raw

seems to

help me more than eating them cooked. I eat at least 10 oz to a pound of greens

(romaine, spinach, kale, collards, beet greens, etc) a day - half of that is in

a smoothie.

Green smoothies to start your day are wonderful - you can't taste the greens,

just the

fruit and you get all the benefits of both. Benefits are more than just iron -

lots of

calcium, protein, folate, etc. Greens really are a superfood! If you want more

ideas for

green smoothies or ways to ease greens into your diet, let me know - I swear by

the

benefits of greens over any supplement.

 

As far as Vitamin D - I second what someone else posted about the sun

benefitting more

than any suplement. I am extremely pale and even have a history of skin cancer

in my

family, but still make sure I get my 20 minutes daily in the sun without any sun

block. I

live in FL so it is easy to do year round here, I just have to watch it in the

summer

months so I don't burn (so I go out earlier in the morning or for less time).

 

Susan

 

, " peej2e2 " <johnsontew wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are low

> as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

> knowledgable group.

>

> As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa, saucy

> baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

> chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

> considering, trying!!

>

> Paula

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think all sources of vitamin d are because something is fortified.  I

read some studies (sorry can't cite where I read it from) that when rickets was

being analyzed before anyone knew it was caused by vitamin d deficiency (vitamin

d hadn't been discovered yet) the scientists found that fish oil (particularly

cod-liver oil) would make people better.  And for that reason they thought it

may be a vitamin A deficiency but couldn't pin point because other sources of

Vitamin D wouldn't help.  So fish is definitely a natural source of vitamin D. 

But obviously not veg*n.  I'm not sure if there are any others though.

Renee

 

--- On Fri, 7/4/08, sahmomof8 <sahmomof8 wrote:

sahmomof8 <sahmomof8

Re: Re: A few questions

 

Friday, July 4, 2008, 9:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aside, you mentioned that people can get vitamin D from dairy

 

products, which is true, but it is not naturallly occurring. Cow

 

milk (the basis of dairy products) and soy milk both have vitamin D

 

because they are fortified.

 

 

 

I don't think I mentioned dairy as an option, at least not for myself,

 

because I almost never consume dairy. Aside from the known dangers, I am

lactose

 

intolerant. I'm assuming that aside from sunshine, all sources of vitamin D

 

are " artificial " ? Marilyn

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Paula,

 

You can cross sour cream off your list of non-vegan products. Tofutti

makes a " Better than Sour Cream " that is excellent. Available at

Whole Foods, etc.

 

http://www.tofutti.com/ss-hydro.shtml

 

I like several of the Tofutti products, including " Better than Cream

Cheese " , but note that not all of their products are vegan. None

contain meat or dairy, but some contain eggs and are clearly labeled.

 

- Alan

 

 

, " peej2e2 " <johnsontew wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are low

> as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

> knowledgable group.

>

> As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa, saucy

> baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

> chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

> considering, trying!!

>

> Paula

>

[Guest guest]

Beware that if you are trying to stay away from hydrogenated products you

may want to check the label- not all products are trans fat free.

 

 

 

_____

 

On

Behalf Of Alan

Friday, July 04, 2008 2:29 PM

 

Re: A few questions

 

 

 

Paula,

 

You can cross sour cream off your list of non-vegan products. Tofutti

makes a " Better than Sour Cream " that is excellent. Available at

Whole Foods, etc.

 

http://www.tofutti. <http://www.tofutti.com/ss-hydro.shtml>

com/ss-hydro.shtml

 

I like several of the Tofutti products, including " Better than Cream

Cheese " , but note that not all of their products are vegan. None

contain meat or dairy, but some contain eggs and are clearly labeled.

 

- Alan

 

@gro <%40> ups.com,

" peej2e2 " <johnsontew wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are low

> as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

> knowledgable group.

>

> As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa, saucy

> baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

> chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

> considering, trying!!

>

> Paula

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Follow Your Heart also has a non dairy sour cream. The Tofutti is delicious

too.

http://www.followyourheart.com/vegangourmet.html

 

 

gosstucker

Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:40:49 -0700

RE: Re: A few questions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Beware that if you are trying to stay away from hydrogenated

products you

 

may want to check the label- not all products are trans fat free.

 

 

 

_____

 

 

 

On

 

Behalf Of Alan

 

Friday, July 04, 2008 2:29 PM

 

 

 

Re: A few questions

 

 

 

Paula,

 

 

 

You can cross sour cream off your list of non-vegan products. Tofutti

 

makes a " Better than Sour Cream " that is excellent. Available at

 

Whole Foods, etc.

 

 

 

http://www.tofutti. <http://www.tofutti.com/ss-hydro.shtml>

 

com/ss-hydro.shtml

 

 

 

I like several of the Tofutti products, including " Better than Cream

 

Cheese " , but note that not all of their products are vegan. None

 

contain meat or dairy, but some contain eggs and are clearly labeled.

 

 

 

- Alan

 

 

 

@gro <%40> ups.com,

 

" peej2e2 " <johnsontew wrote:

 

>

 

> Hi,

 

>

 

> I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are low

 

> as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

 

> knowledgable group.

 

>

 

> As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa, saucy

 

> baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

 

> chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

 

> considering, trying!!

 

>

 

> Paula

 

>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I love that brand as well. I accidently picked up a guacamole from them and

liked it. It tasted more like a French onion dip (wasn't even green!), but I

liked it

 

Cassie

" life's a garden, dig it! "

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jul 4, 2008, at 5:28 PM, " Alan " <soy_decaf_latte wrote:

 

Paula,

 

You can cross sour cream off your list of non-vegan products. Tofutti

makes a " Better than Sour Cream " that is excellent. Available at

Whole Foods, etc.

 

http://www.tofutti.com/ss-hydro.shtml

 

I like several of the Tofutti products, including " Better than Cream

Cheese " , but note that not all of their products are vegan. None

contain meat or dairy, but some contain eggs and are clearly labeled.

 

- Alan

 

, " peej2e2 " <johnsontew wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are low

> as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

> knowledgable group.

>

> As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa, saucy

> baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

> chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

> considering, trying!!

>

> Paula

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

Thanks for the advice. I probably don't get enough fresh greens in

my diet these days. I seem to go in cycles...lots for a few weeks,

then none. So, your post re-inspired me and I bought some baby

spinach. I used it in the salad last night and a smoothie for the

boys and I this morning.

 

My question is...do you have to do anything (besides wash) to the

spinach before putting it in? I just added a handful. We couldn't

taste it but there were green flecks. Thank goodness my boys are

obsessed with the colour green and I could call them green sparkles

if they asked.

 

My youngest is incredibly odd when it comes to food. He gets mad if

I try to put banana or fresh peach in the smoothie because " it is

for eating!!! " Not drinking I guess. Of course, he says he hates it

while I make the smoothie but ends up asking for more.

 

Paula

 

, " Susan " <virgo.vegan wrote:

>

> Paula,

>

> I was ovo/lacto for about 15 years, then went vegan about 7 years

ago. I have a history

> of anemia, but since I went veg over 20 years ago, never really

had a problem with my

> iron. Are you getting enough greens in your diet. I find that

eating them raw seems to

> help me more than eating them cooked. I eat at least 10 oz to a

pound of greens

> (romaine, spinach, kale, collards, beet greens, etc) a day - half

of that is in a smoothie.

> Green smoothies to start your day are wonderful - you can't taste

the greens, just the

> fruit and you get all the benefits of both. Benefits are more

than just iron - lots of

> calcium, protein, folate, etc. Greens really are a superfood! If

you want more ideas for

> green smoothies or ways to ease greens into your diet, let me

know - I swear by the

> benefits of greens over any supplement.

>

> As far as Vitamin D - I second what someone else posted about the

sun benefitting more

> than any suplement. I am extremely pale and even have a history

of skin cancer in my

> family, but still make sure I get my 20 minutes daily in the sun

without any sun block. I

> live in FL so it is easy to do year round here, I just have to

watch it in the summer

> months so I don't burn (so I go out earlier in the morning or for

less time).

>

> Susan

>

> , " peej2e2 " <johnsontew@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I just got some bloodwork back too and my iron and Vitamin D are

low

> > as well. So, I'm looking forward to the responses from this very

> > knowledgable group.

> >

> > As for the potatos here are two ideas: your favourite salsa,

saucy

> > baked beans. Sorry I don't have more, I'm still a sour cream and

> > chives kinda girl but am seriously considering going vegan...not

> > considering, trying!!

> >

> > Paula

> >

>