How much protein do we need? (WAS: Hemp-derived protein powder)

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Hi Bobby,

 

Great question, and I don't have all the answers. Here are a few thoughts:

 

1. Maybe it is raw, I don't know. I said I'm not aware of any such raw

products, and if you have found one, then I'll obviously update my

statement. However, energy is required to create separation at the molecular

level, and where energy is injected, heat is released as a byproduct. How

much heat? I have no earthly idea without understanding their particular

process.

 

2. Claims of the sort, " this resembles human blood " , sell well yet mean very

little. The body --- indeed, every creature --- MUST break down everything

into its component parts, then create what it (the body) presently needs.

That a particular protein exists in a particular food means little in any

present moment. The body may recreate that protein, or the body may create

something entirely different. For example the liver may create a protein the

body has never even used before.

 

This reminds me of another claim, that chlorophyll is just like human red

blood cells, only with magnesium at the center instead of iron. Well, so

what? The body must still take the chlorophyll, break it down completely,

then create whatever it (the body) presently needs. Perhaps it needs new red

blood cells...and perhaps not.

 

Claims of this sort just reflect a lack of understanding of basic principles

of biochemistry and physiology. Even when the claims are " correct " , they are

meaningless.

 

3. Whole foods nourish us more fully and more effectively than do fractional

foods. So I agree with your comment about using the whole seeds...with the

following caveats:

 

3.1 That makes for a rather high-fat smoothie.

3.2 That makes for a smoothie that contains a lot of hard, sharp-edged

insoluble (indigestible) fiber.

 

4. Seeds, like nuts, are ALL high-fat foods. How either of these came to be

regarded as high-protein foods is beyond me. I remember an experience with a

very, very well-known RF teacher (whom I shall not name). This teacher had a

particular recipe, popular for some time, and this teacher wished to create

a low-fat version of the recipe. So this teacher replaced the almonds with

sunflower seeds (or replaced the sunflower seeds with almonds, I cannot

remember which) and called the new version " low-fat " . Here's the problem:

BOTH almonds AND the sunflower seeds provide 73% of their calories from

fat...an identical percentage!! As I've written repeatedly, few RF teachers

have ever looked at the nutritional database. Most routinely author recipes

which provide 50-90% of calories from fats. This can never be healthful.

 

However, from my perspective, this entire discussion misses the key point:

We require no " extra " protein from any source, and we harm ourselves by

consuming any excess protein. The most rapid growth we ever experience

occurs following birth, when we are designed to consume mother's milk only.

Mother's milk starts out at around 14-15% of calories from protein, and by

around 6 months this decreases to about 6%, give or take. (The research on

this is not so great, actually.) So we can reasonably infer that a diet that

provides 6% OR LESS of calories as protein is healthful, even " ideal " . The

80/10/10 program accomplishes this with ease and grace.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

bobby kerry

Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:07 PM

rawfood

RE: [Raw Food] Re: Working Out

 

What about hemp protein powder? I'm not sure how it is processed, but does

claim to be raw. I think it is merely defatted hemp meal, so it may very

well be raw. Analysis shows all aminos present and in nice ratios, at least

the claim is ratios that resemble blood protein profile. I like the stuff

from time to time, but usually just end up using the whole hemp seed in

smoothies. Don't seem to have any food combining issues with that.

 

Best,

Bobby

 

Elchanan <Elchanan@PathOfHeal <Elchanan%40PathOfHealth.org> th.org>

wrote: Erin, it's easy to create a raw protein shake ... just use raw egg

whites by

the truckload. Of course, it won't be vegan ... The problem is with the

protein powders. None, to my knowledge, is raw, and all, to my knowledge,

are seriously toxic to humans. But the effects are corrosive, occurring over

long periods of time in the form of leaching minerals and other direct

effects. The long-term symptoms, such as osteoporosis,

calcifications/arthritis, etc are sufficiently delayed that most people

never make the connection. Learn about the pros and cons of the Pritikin

diet, it's all there.

 

Best,

Elchanan