Language of labeling and self-diagnosis; Verb to be; Emotional eating beneath the cravings; Feelings through one spigot; No weight loss goals (WAS: Physical determinants of health ...)

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Hi Jeannie,

 

Well, my backlog cleanup brings me to this post from you.

 

You may already have done what I am about to suggest ... if so, I apologize

for missing it in some other post. My suggestion: set a date around this

time next year (such as July 1, 2008 CE) and make that the next time you

step on a scale.

 

In other words, let go of any and all goals related to, stop focusing any

attention at all upon, " losing weight " . I invite you to read post #24818 in

the archive, which addresses this topic in some detail and proposes an

alternative.

 

You write:

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I am also a compulsive eater and a food addict. I am not one of the

fortunate people that " can't eat when upset " . I eat when I'm upset...I eat

when I'm happy....I eat when I have nothing to do....I eat when I'm

busy....get the picture?

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As I have written a number of times in this group, all our feelings flow

through one spigot. (See posts #29985 and 32146.) What you describe here is

a determined, ongoing effort to avoid feeling anything at all. And such

behavior is ubiquitous ... so many people are doing this nowadays, it's

almost hard to find someone who is NOT doing this. So you are in voluminous

company.

 

You will not likely resolve the eating until you address the emotional

issues beneath. However, there are some steps you can take immediately. Here

is one example: stop using language such as " compulsive eater " and " food

addict " . Just stop calling yourself (or anyone else) by such names.

 

Stop all self-diagnosis ... stop labeling anything at all in or about

yourself.

 

And stop using the verb " to be " to describe yourself unless the label you

use is one you genuinely wish to use upon yourself. You may indeed eat

compulsively; you may presently have an addictive relationship with food.

(Though I eschew all forms of the word " addict " unless the term is

clinically correctly used.) But when you say " I AM <<these things>> " , then

you stamp a label upon your own forehead, upon your very being, that is

every bit as damaging as any label or diagnosis anyone else could ever stamp

upon your. So switch from the verb " to be " and begin speaking more honestly

.... use verbs that correctly describe what you mean.

 

Okay, enough on that for the moment.

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You write:

 

I was excited because I thought I was loosing because of the way my clothes

are starting to fit me a bit looser, ...

 

The sad thing is I was always so thin as a child and as a young adult. I

don't like this me. You would think I would be smart enough to do something

constructive about it.

 

This is what brought me to the raw lifestyle to begin with. I am not seeing

results.

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Jeannie, you ARE seeing results ... you just described one of them ... your

clothes drape your body differently than they did a few short weeks ago!!!

The thing is, you came into this with a set of demands ... demands that your

system should produce THESE outcomes in THIS timeframe. And of course, your

system is cleaning up in accordance with its own priorities, directed by its

innate intelligence. What your conscious awareness says about it means

nothing ... EXCEPT to the extent that you set yourself up for

disappointment.

 

So set ONE overarching goal: to create a vibrant, healthful you, one day at

a time. OVER TIME. And begin making a list of what you and your life will

look, sound, and feel like when you begin to reach that place ... NOT that

goal, as in some specific, static thing to build, but rather that PLACE, as

in a way of being, a quality of appearance and feeling and experience.

That's what we all seek, not some number on a bloody scale!

 

You have spent decades creating the present you. It will take at least some

time ... perhaps a year or two or even three ... to uncreate all that and

recreate the new ... the original ... you. Hold your focus there ... it will

help you stay the course along the way.

 

Best,

Elchanan

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

jeannieh h

Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:43 AM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Physical determinants of health; Hydration, Fuel,

Rest, Activity/Constructive Use; Eating for specific nutrients (WAS: avos,

nuts and seeds, was...hirst and Chronic Excess You Syndrome

(CExYS)...was....was...was.....)

 

 

Elchanan,

 

well, I am one of the " overfat " ...lol I like that term. Actually dr's call

me " clinically obese " . I need to loose over 100#'s.

 

I have been 100%raw for just over 2 months now and am getting pretty

depressed because I have not lost as much as so many of my other raw

compadres.........

 

I am also a compulsive eater and a food addict. I am not one of the

fortunate people that " can't eat when upset " . I eat when I'm upset...I eat

when I'm happy....I eat when I have nothing to do....I eat when I'm

busy....get the picture?

 

I have hypothyroid disease so I don't metabolize foods the way normal people

do. I take synthroid.

 

I was excited because I thought I was loosing because of the way my clothes

are starting to fit me a bit looser, I made the mistake of going to gnc to

step on their scale that gives you information. I was so sad after seeing

that I haven't lost as much as I thought I had. I have to say I wanted to

" fall of the wagon " and just eat...I went to Olive Garden with a friend and

had the soup & salad...... I ate their bread sticks!! This is what I do when

I'm depressed. Intellectually, I know I should not be doing this,but

emotionally I just say " to heck with it " " why bother " ......

 

I've taken every kind of diet pill known to man, I've been up and down so

many times weight wise and each time I gained way more weight than before...

 

The sad thing is I was always so thin as a child and as a young adult. I

don't like this me. You would think I would be smart enough to do something

constructive about it.

 

This is what brought me to the raw lifestyle to begin with. I am not seeing

results.

 

Am I hopeless? Do you see any thing I might be able to do to see some better

results?

 

Sincerely,

 

Jeannie