Reflection on Monogamy: Hunger vs. Craving (WAS: Shall We Dance??)

[Guest guest]

Wyn,

 

I love how you put this!!

 

One way to perceive all this is in the distinction between genuine hunger

vs. craving. Whenever we allow ourselves to experience a genuinely

connected, fulfilling relationship, then over time we feel satiated

emotionally. We may indeed notice others, feel a sense of curiosity,

attraction, and the like ... yes, I agree that these responses reflect our

aliveness. But whenever we " must have " whomever the object of the moment is,

that is a craving, not genuine hunger or desire.

 

But notice my use of " allow ourselves to experience " . Most of us carry so

much unresolved pain and fear that we dare not ever really allow ourselves

to experience anything to the fullest ... connection, love, pain, joy, fear

.... nothing.

 

All human feelings flow through a single spigot. Either we feel them all, or

we feel them not. This is why, from my perspective, this journey along the

path of health involves far more than diet, far more than just things

physical. Until we attend to our subconscious programming and to our

emotional well-being, most of the journey still lies before us.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

The Raw Retreat

Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:40 AM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re:Shall We Dance?? (WAS: Blue blankie)

 

 

And I!

 

I've never been able to understand the degree of being out of integrity with

MYSELF necessary to cheat on a partner - let alone the degree of being out

of integrity with them. That doesn't mean I'm not attracted to other women

at times. And in fact, I think that I am is healthy. It means all the

systems are working. But attracted doesn't mean " gotta have " .

 

And, I am attracted to the same 'ol type. The deep thinking, deep feeling,

wounded bird type. Not necessarily a healthy energetic profile. Thanks

mom! ;-) Took me until I was 50 to attract one that had done enough inner

work to have a stable relationship. More true that it took me until 50 to

do enough of my own inner work to attract one that could have a stable

relationship.

 

..wyn

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

oooo thats deep!

 

and how true!

 

anna

 

On 6/27/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> Wyn,

>

> I love how you put this!!

>

> One way to perceive all this is in the distinction between genuine hunger

> vs. craving. Whenever we allow ourselves to experience a genuinely

> connected, fulfilling relationship, then over time we feel satiated

> emotionally. We may indeed notice others, feel a sense of curiosity,

> attraction, and the like ... yes, I agree that these responses reflect our

> aliveness. But whenever we " must have " whomever the object of the moment is,

> that is a craving, not genuine hunger or desire.

>

> But notice my use of " allow ourselves to experience " . Most of us carry so

> much unresolved pain and fear that we dare not ever really allow ourselves

> to experience anything to the fullest ... connection, love, pain, joy, fear

> ... nothing.

>

> All human feelings flow through a single spigot. Either we feel them all, or

> we feel them not. This is why, from my perspective, this journey along the

> path of health involves far more than diet, far more than just things

> physical. Until we attend to our subconscious programming and to our

> emotional well-being, most of the journey still lies before us.

>

> Best to all,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> The Raw Retreat

> Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:40 AM

> rawfood

> [Raw Food] Re:Shall We Dance?? (WAS: Blue blankie)

>

>

> And I!

>

> I've never been able to understand the degree of being out of integrity with

> MYSELF necessary to cheat on a partner - let alone the degree of being out

> of integrity with them. That doesn't mean I'm not attracted to other women

> at times. And in fact, I think that I am is healthy. It means all the

> systems are working. But attracted doesn't mean " gotta have " .

>

> And, I am attracted to the same 'ol type. The deep thinking, deep feeling,

> wounded bird type. Not necessarily a healthy energetic profile. Thanks

> mom! ;-) Took me until I was 50 to attract one that had done enough inner

> work to have a stable relationship. More true that it took me until 50 to

> do enough of my own inner work to attract one that could have a stable

> relationship.

>

> .wyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Elchanan,

 

Yes. It's that craving thing. Whether it's another person, chocolate

cake, alcohol, ice cream, etc.

 

We have created this world we live in out of fear and desire. It

causes and is caused by that empty feeling most of us have. Until we

do the work to discover the energetic chords that are connected to

that emptiness we continue to do things we think will satisfy that

empty feeling. Approaching the emptiness feels like fear. Most people

stay busy physically or mentally to avoid the feelings that bubble up

when we are quiet. And we self-medicate with all kinds of things that

we put in our bodies to avoid those feelings.

 

One day, years ago, in the mountains, I had this visceral experience

of those energetic chords being like feeding tubes. I was the vampire

- sucking energy from other people and activities trying to fill up

that empty space. I did a ceremony - got into the state where I could

feel the tubes, grabbed them and with an axe cut them over a large

stump! That created a lot of freedom. I wasn't done.... There was

still more work to do with individual energetic patterns -

psychological programs. But after that day I could allow myself to

feel that empty place and not be afraid. Not act covertly to try to

fill it up.

 

I'm certainly no saint! I still get triggered by stuff. I still act

out. What's different is that I catch myself closer and closer to the

trigger point. And at the moment of seeing and feeling clearly ---

the trance is broken. Choice is a possibility once again.

 

Enjoy and be well!

 

..wyn

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