Heat Denatures Proteinsm + Enough Protein; Protein Deficiency' Kwashiorkor (WAS: Food Combining Through the Day: A Few Tips)

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Yes, Caron, you've made the (pardon my saying so) utterly obvious connection

.... if heat denatures proteins to the point where it destroys bacteria and

viruses ... that is, to the point where the proteins no longer sustain life

at a microscopic level (tiny creatures), then OR COURSE heat denatures

proteins to the point where they no longer sustain life at a macroscopic

level (larger creatures). Heating also destroys the fats, carbohydrates (and

including much of the usable fiber) ... human it is living in spite of

itself.

 

As for building lean tissue, the body builds lean tissue in response to

activity, not in response to eating. This is why body builders are found

spending more time in the gym than in the kitchen. (Again, the utterly

obvious.)

 

Mountains of stidies show that there is no benefit from increasing the

relative amount of protein in one's diet as one's activity level increases.

In other words, athletes need not increase their PERCENT of protein. Rather,

simply by increasing their activity level, they need more fuel, they consume

more calories, and therefore they consume more of all other nutrients

attached to those calories.

 

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Monday, June 25, 2007 8:23 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] " Enough Protein " ; " Protein Deficiency " ' Kwashiorkor

(WAS: Food Combining Through the Day: A Few Tips)

 

Thanks, Elchanan, that's good to know. According to NutriDiary, he's

getting around 14 grams of protein from the fruit he's eating, around 4% of

his intake. I'm still trying to shake off the old information I've been

bombarded with, that he needs more protein to satisfy hunger, to give him

energy, and to build muscle. As far as I can see, he has plenty of energy,

though he is eating constantly all day, it's the growing and building muscle

I worry about...though he didn't do much growing while he was eating meat

and eggs.

 

The heat damage to proteins is actually what " converted " me to raw eating -

during my first year of uni, we learned about how virii and bacteria are

killed by heat, because their proteins are denatured, and my first thought

was, " well then, what about the meat we eat?? " . Unfortunately, I didn't

follow it up, because I was programmed to believe that the food we eat

doesn't obey the laws of physics or chemistry. If I had, I could have

avoided 8 years of agony, and actually got my degree...but my life wouldn't

be what it is today, so that's all ok )

 

Caron

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Elchanan

 

A genuine protein deficiency is virtually unheard of, other than where

people are starving to death. When we consume raw, plant-based proteins, we

need consume very little ... in fact, more than a little poisons us. The

big issue for SAD eaters is that most of the protein they consume is

nonviable ... incapable of supporting life ... because of heat-caused

damage.

 

Protein deficiency is such a nonissue that, among all the tens of thousands

of diagnoses available to doctors, protein deficiency unrelated to

starvation isn't even listed. And for those one or two in the group who may

wish to jump on that statement, yes, I am aware of Kwashiorkor (a diagnosis

created in Africa in 1932, originally thought to be protein deficiency but

later found to be a facet of systemic starvation) and related diagnoses.

They are irrelevant for anyone here.

 

 

 

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Elchanan

>Mountains of stidies show that there is no benefit from increasing the

relative amount of protein in one's diet as one's activity level increases.

In other words, athletes need not increase their PERCENT of protein. Rather,

simply by increasing their activity level, they need more fuel, they consume

more calories, and therefore they consume more of all other nutrients

attached to those calories.

 

Ok, that all makes sense, but his current ratio, on average, is 83/13/4 -

carbs, fats, proteins. If the ideal ratio is 80/10/10, should I be trying to

increase his 4% proteins a bit? If so, how? Mainstream dietetics teaches

that nuts are the obvious way to increase protein, but they have more oil

than avocado, and about the same protein, so the only effect it has is to

increase the fat %, and decrease carbs. I added a dozen almonds to his diet

on NutriDiary, and that put him to around 77/19/4. Legumes is the other way,

but they all need to be cooked - as far as I can see they're toxic raw. I

could be misunderstanding something there though. Are the leaves higher in

protein? Or are some fruits higher in protein than others? A random guess is

cucumber, as it's not very sweet, but isn't oily either - he sometimes eats

cucumber, used to chew it when he was teething, but has so far rejected it

when I've offered it to him.

 

Thanks, again Elchanan, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge )

 

Caron