Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Okay..I've been quiet about my opinion on this b/c I was curious about what everyone else had to say first. Not fair, I know. I think everyone is agreeing that there is personal responsibility for an individual in this situation. And I think that the majority of us empathize with that man for one reason or another (either our own struggles, or seeing that the caregivers may not have been helping him or encouraging him- things we may have faced in our own lives...). What I'm seeing is that our discussion is somewhat convoluted....the empathy based messages are being confused with the underlying agreement that he did have a choice. That being said, I think we also have to consider the emotional aspect of this man's situation. Don't get me wrong- we choose how we respond to our emotions/our circumstances- but I would imagine that this man was suffering from severe depression along with his eating disorder (and I truly believe that it is an eating disorder). In any situation where there is a dual-diagnosis (ie- health problems AND mental health issues, or addiction, etc)it is harder to treat BOTH problems. Perhaps that is one of the issues in this situation? I imagine the focus of a treatment provider would primarily be on the physical health of this man, instead of the emotional health. You can't be successful treating the outside if you don't treat what is on the inside. Just something else to consider.... ______________________________\ ____ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 thank you kerri, you noticed... everyone says " oh yes personal responsibility yea......But... " what does this mean to people? you cant have personal responsibility while blaming the staff. nobody but nobody is to blame for my past weight issues. Just me and my mouth. And nobody is happier to see me thin than me. Nobody deserves the credit other than me. It is MY body. i could be flat on my back fat except i wont choose that for myself. I could have stayed at 160...sh*t i cudda got bigger....but i said no. Homeboy cudda stopped at 250. But he said..naaaww im gonna eat lloots more...then 300..then 350..then 400...all the way to 1000. he suddenly developed some will power at 1000. When he should be at his most burdoned and weakest....he stood up. i for one applaud him for not giving in to 1100 or for not expecting the staff to make him stop...since its their fault and all... hes taking control of himself. its more than many would do apparantly.... peace y'all anna On 6/21/07, Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote: > Okay..I've been quiet about my opinion on this b/c I > was curious about what everyone else had to say first. > Not fair, I know. > > I think everyone is agreeing that there is personal > responsibility for an individual in this situation. > And I think that the majority of us empathize with > that man for one reason or another (either our own > struggles, or seeing that the caregivers may not have > been helping him or encouraging him- things we may > have faced in our own lives...). What I'm seeing is > that our discussion is somewhat convoluted....the > empathy based messages are being confused with the > underlying agreement that he did have a choice. > > That being said, I think we also have to consider the > emotional aspect of this man's situation. Don't get > me wrong- we choose how we respond to our emotions/our > circumstances- but I would imagine that this man was > suffering from severe depression along with his eating > disorder (and I truly believe that it is an eating > disorder). In any situation where there is a > dual-diagnosis (ie- health problems AND mental health > issues, or addiction, etc)it is harder to treat BOTH > problems. Perhaps that is one of the issues in this > situation? I imagine the focus of a treatment > provider would primarily be on the physical health of > this man, instead of the emotional health. You can't > be successful treating the outside if you don't treat > what is on the inside. > > Just something else to consider.... > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 good point Kerri. and yes that wasn't fair hanging out listening to our banter first! ha ha Kerri Myers <twinkles457 wrote: Okay..I've been quiet about my opinion on this b/c I was curious about what everyone else had to say first. Not fair, I know. I think everyone is agreeing that there is personal responsibility for an individual in this situation. And I think that the majority of us empathize with that man for one reason or another (either our own struggles, or seeing that the caregivers may not have been helping him or encouraging him- things we may have faced in our own lives...). What I'm seeing is that our discussion is somewhat convoluted....the empathy based messages are being confused with the underlying agreement that he did have a choice. That being said, I think we also have to consider the emotional aspect of this man's situation. Don't get me wrong- we choose how we respond to our emotions/our circumstances- but I would imagine that this man was suffering from severe depression along with his eating disorder (and I truly believe that it is an eating disorder). In any situation where there is a dual-diagnosis (ie- health problems AND mental health issues, or addiction, etc)it is harder to treat BOTH problems. Perhaps that is one of the issues in this situation? I imagine the focus of a treatment provider would primarily be on the physical health of this man, instead of the emotional health. You can't be successful treating the outside if you don't treat what is on the inside. Just something else to consider.... ________ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Terry Lynn Bakhtiari May God bless you Today and always. www.terrywithpcos.blogspot.com oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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