Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 seriously, I absolutely love avocados, nuts and seeds. I thought it was a healthy thing to consume these things. I thought we do need some healthy fats in our diet. I have a hard time believing these things are not good for us. In the raw cook books there are so many dishes made with these items that if you take them out there is not much left. This is very hard to take, Please tell me we can eat these things, if only in moderation. I'm so depressed, Jeannie your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. Elchanan <Elchanan rawfood Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57:12 AM [Raw Food] Thirst and Chronic Excess You Syndrome (CExYS) (WAS: Relearning core messages from within/sensations: Thirst ... Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation) Greetings Caron, this is Elchanan Jr., standing in for Elchanan, who is presently attending an Advanced Sales Pitching workshop in the Bermuda Triangle. We hope to hear from him soon. From all that you describe, I take it you are carrying around a wee bit of extra you, correct? People who experience Chronic Excess You Syndrome (CExYS, pronounced kek-sis)) are dehydrated 24x7 and experience thirst, to some degree, all the time. The solution, of course, lies in restoring Just the Right Amount of You (JRAY!!), which takes a bit of time. The first big shift is to remove all dehydrating foods from your diet, if you have not already done so. This includes all cooked foods, dehydrated foods, animal foods (cooked or raw), and all high-fat foods (nuts, seeds, olives, coconut, avocado, oils). At the same time, if you dramatically increase your consumption of fruits, proper hydration will begin to occur. We are supposed to get our water in our food, not by excess drinking. In time, you will reach this point. But you won't have to try, it will just happen on its own, as your system replenishes itself. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Caron Friday, June 15, 2007 7:41 PM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Relearning core messages from within/sensations: Thirst ... Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation - Elchanan I suggest buying the book, The 80/10/10 Diet, directly from the author at Dr. Doug Graham's web site, www.foodnsport.com/811. Thanks, exactly what I was looking for ) I'll have to wait till payday though. And regarding that satiation experience, I'm SO glad to hear of this experience. Isn't it amazing ... our bodies tell us exactly when to stop eating a given food ... but only when we are eating one food at a time. It is amazing, and in a way very comforting to know that something in this body of mine still works! I prefer to eat one food at a time - it's easier, less to worry about whether foods will go ok together, and less preparation. I like things simple, too tired for anything more! Let's try thirst ... every time you think you are hungry and/or feel tired, particularly during the mid- to late afternoon, pause and pay attention to your throat. Does it feel somewhat dry, perhaps a bit raspy? Drink water and wait about 20 minutes to see how you feel. Drink as much water as you wish, but slowly, not gulping. For added benefit, lie down with your eyes closed during that time. In almost all cases, that midafternoon tiredness results, at least in part, from simple systemic dehydration and hyperstimulation (as at a computer all day). So water and a bit of " shut-eye " can make a huge difference ... and you can reconnect with your sense of thirst. I've always drunk a lot of water, right from when I was a kid. I'd carry at least 2 litres to school every day, and drink it by lunchtime, then refill. When my boy was a couple of weeks old, I got a water filter and cooler tower, that sits behind me all day, and I have a cup on my desk that I go through at least 8-12 times a day (giving me 4-6 litres of water, at half a litre per cupful). Every time my boy has a feed, I drink a full cup (he fills it up for me before he asks for a feed now, hehe), and I also drink in the meantime, on average a mouthful or more every 20 minutes or so. When I first started putting on weight, the doctor suggested that I was overeating, even though I was eating far less than usual, and said that every time I felt hungry, I should have a drink of water instead, so that's become a habit. If I can feel my belly, I drink. I also drink if my head starts to ache, as I've had quite a few headaches from dehydration (I tend not to drink as much when I'm out, as I can only carry 2 half-litre bottles of water now, and I like to make sure I have some for the boy; I also get dehydrated overnight), or if my eyes feel dry. I rarely feel dry in my mouth, as I have a lot of mucous in the back of my throat, and tend to cough (dry cough) a lot. My nose is generally dry, but crusty (tmi?). The skin on my arms is pretty soft, but my legs are dry, and my face alternates between burnt dry, and oily. So it seems that despite the fact that I drink more water than any 3 people I know, I'm still showing most signs of dehydration at any given time. Milk supply is great - the only thing that's not dehydrated, it seems, but that doesn't surprise me, given that our body is designed to give all the good stuff to the growing infant, regardless of mother's health or intake. I'm tired all the time, so don't tend to associate that with thirst, hehe. Though if it is a sign of thirst, and I'm dehydrated all the time, I guess being tired all the time is a given. So, how do I distinguish between actual hunger and thirst hunger, and actual tiredness and thirst tiredness? Some days I feel like it's a waste of time to sleep, because I wake up feeling as bad or worse than when I went to sleep (often due to the toddler on my head, but not always, hehe). Same with eating. Thanks again, Elchanan...I mean, Elchanan...or are you going by Elchanan these days? Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 same here.. dont take my avos! whats a cuban without aguacate? anna On 6/16/07, jeannieh h <jeannieh99 wrote: > seriously, > > I absolutely love avocados, nuts and seeds. I thought it was a healthy thing > to consume these things. I thought we do need some healthy fats in our diet. > > I have a hard time believing these things are not good for us. In the raw > cook books there are so many dishes made with these items that if you take > them out there is not much left. > > This is very hard to take, Please tell me we can eat these things, if only > in moderation. > > I'm so depressed, > > Jeannie > > > > your time is the most cherished gift of all, tomorrow is promised to no one. > > > > > Elchanan <Elchanan > rawfood > Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:57:12 AM > [Raw Food] Thirst and Chronic Excess You Syndrome (CExYS) (WAS: > Relearning core messages from within/sensations: Thirst ... Paradigm shift; > Tender Greens; Satiation) > > > Greetings Caron, this is Elchanan Jr., standing in for Elchanan, who is > presently attending an Advanced Sales Pitching workshop in the Bermuda > Triangle. We hope to hear from him soon. > > From all that you describe, I take it you are carrying around a wee bit of > extra you, correct? People who experience Chronic Excess You Syndrome > (CExYS, pronounced kek-sis)) are dehydrated 24x7 and experience thirst, to > some degree, all the time. The solution, of course, lies in restoring Just > the Right Amount of You (JRAY!!), which takes a bit of time. > > The first big shift is to remove all dehydrating foods from your diet, if > you have not already done so. This includes all cooked foods, dehydrated > foods, animal foods (cooked or raw), and all high-fat foods (nuts, seeds, > olives, coconut, avocado, oils). At the same time, if you dramatically > increase your consumption of fruits, proper hydration will begin to occur. > We are supposed to get our water in our food, not by excess drinking. In > time, you will reach this point. But you won't have to try, it will just > happen on its own, as your system replenishes itself. > > Best, > Elchanan > _____ > > rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of > Caron > Friday, June 15, 2007 7:41 PM > rawfood > Re: [Raw Food] Relearning core messages from within/sensations: > Thirst ... Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation > > > > - Elchanan I suggest buying the book, The > 80/10/10 Diet, directly from the author at Dr. Doug Graham's web site, > www.foodnsport.com/811. > > Thanks, exactly what I was looking for ) I'll have to wait till payday > though. > > And regarding that satiation experience, I'm SO glad to hear of this > experience. Isn't it amazing ... our bodies tell us exactly when to stop > eating a given food ... but only when we are eating one food at a time. > > It is amazing, and in a way very comforting to know that something in this > body of mine still works! I prefer to eat one food at a time - it's easier, > less to worry about whether foods will go ok together, and less preparation. > I like things simple, too tired for anything more! > > Let's try thirst ... every time you think you are hungry and/or feel tired, > particularly during the mid- to late afternoon, pause and pay attention to > your throat. Does it feel somewhat dry, perhaps a bit raspy? Drink water > and wait about 20 minutes to see how you feel. Drink as much water as you > wish, but slowly, not gulping. For added benefit, lie down with your eyes > closed during that time. In almost all cases, that midafternoon tiredness > results, at least in part, from simple systemic dehydration and > hyperstimulation (as at a computer all day). So water and a bit of > " shut-eye " can make a huge difference ... and you can reconnect with your > sense of thirst. > > I've always drunk a lot of water, right from when I was a kid. I'd carry at > least 2 litres to school every day, and drink it by lunchtime, then refill. > When my boy was a couple of weeks old, I got a water filter and cooler > tower, that sits behind me all day, and I have a cup on my desk that I go > through at least 8-12 times a day (giving me 4-6 litres of water, at half a > litre per cupful). Every time my boy has a feed, I drink a full cup (he > fills it up for me before he asks for a feed now, hehe), and I also drink in > the meantime, on average a mouthful or more every 20 minutes or so. > > When I first started putting on weight, the doctor suggested that I was > overeating, even though I was eating far less than usual, and said that > every time I felt hungry, I should have a drink of water instead, so that's > become a habit. If I can feel my belly, I drink. I also drink if my head > starts to ache, as I've had quite a few headaches from dehydration (I tend > not to drink as much when I'm out, as I can only carry 2 half-litre bottles > of water now, and I like to make sure I have some for the boy; I also get > dehydrated overnight), or if my eyes feel dry. I rarely feel dry in my > mouth, as I have a lot of mucous in the back of my throat, and tend to cough > (dry cough) a lot. My nose is generally dry, but crusty (tmi?). The skin > on my arms is pretty soft, but my legs are dry, and my face alternates > between burnt dry, and oily. So it seems that despite the fact that I drink > more water than any 3 people I know, I'm still showing most signs of > dehydration at any given time. Milk supply is great - the only thing that's > not dehydrated, it seems, but that doesn't surprise me, given that our body > is designed to give all the good stuff to the growing infant, regardless of > mother's health or intake. I'm tired all the time, so don't tend to > associate that with thirst, hehe. Though if it is a sign of thirst, and I'm > dehydrated all the time, I guess being tired all the time is a given. > > So, how do I distinguish between actual hunger and thirst hunger, and actual > tiredness and thirst tiredness? Some days I feel like it's a waste of time > to sleep, because I wake up feeling as bad or worse than when I went to > sleep (often due to the toddler on my head, but not always, hehe). Same > with eating. > > Thanks again, Elchanan...I mean, Elchanan...or are you going by Elchanan > these days? > > Caron > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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