Thirst and Chronic Excess You Syndrome (CExYS) (WAS: Relearning core messages from within/sensations: Thirst ... Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation)

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Greetings Caron, this is Elchanan Jr., standing in for Elchanan, who is

presently attending an Advanced Sales Pitching workshop in the Bermuda

Triangle. We hope to hear from him soon.

 

From all that you describe, I take it you are carrying around a wee bit of

extra you, correct? People who experience Chronic Excess You Syndrome

(CExYS, pronounced kek-sis)) are dehydrated 24x7 and experience thirst, to

some degree, all the time. The solution, of course, lies in restoring Just

the Right Amount of You (JRAY!!), which takes a bit of time.

 

The first big shift is to remove all dehydrating foods from your diet, if

you have not already done so. This includes all cooked foods, dehydrated

foods, animal foods (cooked or raw), and all high-fat foods (nuts, seeds,

olives, coconut, avocado, oils). At the same time, if you dramatically

increase your consumption of fruits, proper hydration will begin to occur.

We are supposed to get our water in our food, not by excess drinking. In

time, you will reach this point. But you won't have to try, it will just

happen on its own, as your system replenishes itself.

 

Best,

Elchanan

_____

 

rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

Caron

Friday, June 15, 2007 7:41 PM

rawfood

Re: [Raw Food] Relearning core messages from within/sensations:

Thirst ... Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation

 

 

 

- Elchanan I suggest buying the book, The

80/10/10 Diet, directly from the author at Dr. Doug Graham's web site,

www.foodnsport.com/811.

 

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for ) I'll have to wait till payday

though.

 

And regarding that satiation experience, I'm SO glad to hear of this

experience. Isn't it amazing ... our bodies tell us exactly when to stop

eating a given food ... but only when we are eating one food at a time.

 

It is amazing, and in a way very comforting to know that something in this

body of mine still works! I prefer to eat one food at a time - it's easier,

less to worry about whether foods will go ok together, and less preparation.

I like things simple, too tired for anything more!

 

Let's try thirst ... every time you think you are hungry and/or feel tired,

particularly during the mid- to late afternoon, pause and pay attention to

your throat. Does it feel somewhat dry, perhaps a bit raspy? Drink water

and wait about 20 minutes to see how you feel. Drink as much water as you

wish, but slowly, not gulping. For added benefit, lie down with your eyes

closed during that time. In almost all cases, that midafternoon tiredness

results, at least in part, from simple systemic dehydration and

hyperstimulation (as at a computer all day). So water and a bit of

" shut-eye " can make a huge difference ... and you can reconnect with your

sense of thirst.

 

I've always drunk a lot of water, right from when I was a kid. I'd carry at

least 2 litres to school every day, and drink it by lunchtime, then refill.

When my boy was a couple of weeks old, I got a water filter and cooler

tower, that sits behind me all day, and I have a cup on my desk that I go

through at least 8-12 times a day (giving me 4-6 litres of water, at half a

litre per cupful). Every time my boy has a feed, I drink a full cup (he

fills it up for me before he asks for a feed now, hehe), and I also drink in

the meantime, on average a mouthful or more every 20 minutes or so.

 

When I first started putting on weight, the doctor suggested that I was

overeating, even though I was eating far less than usual, and said that

every time I felt hungry, I should have a drink of water instead, so that's

become a habit. If I can feel my belly, I drink. I also drink if my head

starts to ache, as I've had quite a few headaches from dehydration (I tend

not to drink as much when I'm out, as I can only carry 2 half-litre bottles

of water now, and I like to make sure I have some for the boy; I also get

dehydrated overnight), or if my eyes feel dry. I rarely feel dry in my

mouth, as I have a lot of mucous in the back of my throat, and tend to cough

(dry cough) a lot. My nose is generally dry, but crusty (tmi?). The skin

on my arms is pretty soft, but my legs are dry, and my face alternates

between burnt dry, and oily. So it seems that despite the fact that I drink

more water than any 3 people I know, I'm still showing most signs of

dehydration at any given time. Milk supply is great - the only thing that's

not dehydrated, it seems, but that doesn't surprise me, given that our body

is designed to give all the good stuff to the growing infant, regardless of

mother's health or intake. I'm tired all the time, so don't tend to

associate that with thirst, hehe. Though if it is a sign of thirst, and I'm

dehydrated all the time, I guess being tired all the time is a given.

 

So, how do I distinguish between actual hunger and thirst hunger, and actual

tiredness and thirst tiredness? Some days I feel like it's a waste of time

to sleep, because I wake up feeling as bad or worse than when I went to

sleep (often due to the toddler on my head, but not always, hehe). Same

with eating.

 

Thanks again, Elchanan...I mean, Elchanan...or are you going by Elchanan

these days?

 

Caron

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

OMG ROFLMHO!

 

youve topped yourself!

 

hysterical....

 

On 6/16/07, Elchanan <Elchanan wrote:

> Greetings Caron, this is Elchanan Jr., standing in for Elchanan, who is

> presently attending an Advanced Sales Pitching workshop in the Bermuda

> Triangle. We hope to hear from him soon.

>

> From all that you describe, I take it you are carrying around a wee bit of

> extra you, correct? People who experience Chronic Excess You Syndrome

> (CExYS, pronounced kek-sis)) are dehydrated 24x7 and experience thirst, to

> some degree, all the time. The solution, of course, lies in restoring Just

> the Right Amount of You (JRAY!!), which takes a bit of time.

>

> The first big shift is to remove all dehydrating foods from your diet, if

> you have not already done so. This includes all cooked foods, dehydrated

> foods, animal foods (cooked or raw), and all high-fat foods (nuts, seeds,

> olives, coconut, avocado, oils). At the same time, if you dramatically

> increase your consumption of fruits, proper hydration will begin to occur.

> We are supposed to get our water in our food, not by excess drinking. In

> time, you will reach this point. But you won't have to try, it will just

> happen on its own, as your system replenishes itself.

>

> Best,

> Elchanan

> _____

>

> rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

> Caron

> Friday, June 15, 2007 7:41 PM

> rawfood

> Re: [Raw Food] Relearning core messages from within/sensations:

> Thirst ... Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation

>

>

>

> - Elchanan I suggest buying the book, The

> 80/10/10 Diet, directly from the author at Dr. Doug Graham's web site,

> www.foodnsport.com/811.

>

> Thanks, exactly what I was looking for ) I'll have to wait till payday

> though.

>

> And regarding that satiation experience, I'm SO glad to hear of this

> experience. Isn't it amazing ... our bodies tell us exactly when to stop

> eating a given food ... but only when we are eating one food at a time.

>

> It is amazing, and in a way very comforting to know that something in this

> body of mine still works! I prefer to eat one food at a time - it's easier,

> less to worry about whether foods will go ok together, and less preparation.

> I like things simple, too tired for anything more!

>

> Let's try thirst ... every time you think you are hungry and/or feel tired,

> particularly during the mid- to late afternoon, pause and pay attention to

> your throat. Does it feel somewhat dry, perhaps a bit raspy? Drink water

> and wait about 20 minutes to see how you feel. Drink as much water as you

> wish, but slowly, not gulping. For added benefit, lie down with your eyes

> closed during that time. In almost all cases, that midafternoon tiredness

> results, at least in part, from simple systemic dehydration and

> hyperstimulation (as at a computer all day). So water and a bit of

> " shut-eye " can make a huge difference ... and you can reconnect with your

> sense of thirst.

>

> I've always drunk a lot of water, right from when I was a kid. I'd carry at

> least 2 litres to school every day, and drink it by lunchtime, then refill.

> When my boy was a couple of weeks old, I got a water filter and cooler

> tower, that sits behind me all day, and I have a cup on my desk that I go

> through at least 8-12 times a day (giving me 4-6 litres of water, at half a

> litre per cupful). Every time my boy has a feed, I drink a full cup (he

> fills it up for me before he asks for a feed now, hehe), and I also drink in

> the meantime, on average a mouthful or more every 20 minutes or so.

>

> When I first started putting on weight, the doctor suggested that I was

> overeating, even though I was eating far less than usual, and said that

> every time I felt hungry, I should have a drink of water instead, so that's

> become a habit. If I can feel my belly, I drink. I also drink if my head

> starts to ache, as I've had quite a few headaches from dehydration (I tend

> not to drink as much when I'm out, as I can only carry 2 half-litre bottles

> of water now, and I like to make sure I have some for the boy; I also get

> dehydrated overnight), or if my eyes feel dry. I rarely feel dry in my

> mouth, as I have a lot of mucous in the back of my throat, and tend to cough

> (dry cough) a lot. My nose is generally dry, but crusty (tmi?). The skin

> on my arms is pretty soft, but my legs are dry, and my face alternates

> between burnt dry, and oily. So it seems that despite the fact that I drink

> more water than any 3 people I know, I'm still showing most signs of

> dehydration at any given time. Milk supply is great - the only thing that's

> not dehydrated, it seems, but that doesn't surprise me, given that our body

> is designed to give all the good stuff to the growing infant, regardless of

> mother's health or intake. I'm tired all the time, so don't tend to

> associate that with thirst, hehe. Though if it is a sign of thirst, and I'm

> dehydrated all the time, I guess being tired all the time is a given.

>

> So, how do I distinguish between actual hunger and thirst hunger, and actual

> tiredness and thirst tiredness? Some days I feel like it's a waste of time

> to sleep, because I wake up feeling as bad or worse than when I went to

> sleep (often due to the toddler on my head, but not always, hehe). Same

> with eating.

>

> Thanks again, Elchanan...I mean, Elchanan...or are you going by Elchanan

> these days?

>

> Caron

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

-

Elchanan

>Greetings Caron, this is Elchanan Jr., standing in for Elchanan, who is

presently attending an Advanced Sales Pitching workshop in the Bermuda

Triangle. We hope to hear from him soon.

 

Hi Elchanan, give Elchanan my regards, and wishes for a safe journey.

 

>From all that you describe, I take it you are carrying around a wee bit of

extra you, correct? People who experience Chronic Excess You Syndrome

(CExYS, pronounced kek-sis)) are dehydrated 24x7 and experience thirst, to

some degree, all the time. The solution, of course, lies in restoring Just

the Right Amount of You (JRAY!!), which takes a bit of time.

 

Let's just say I'm twice the woman I was at 18 ;o) And yes, I've been

searching for JRAY ever since.

 

>The first big shift is to remove all dehydrating foods from your diet, if

you have not already done so. This includes all cooked foods, dehydrated

foods, animal foods (cooked or raw), and all high-fat foods (nuts, seeds,

olives, coconut, avocado, oils). At the same time, if you dramatically

increase your consumption of fruits, proper hydration will begin to occur.

We are supposed to get our water in our food, not by excess drinking. In

time, you will reach this point. But you won't have to try, it will just

happen on its own, as your system replenishes itself.

 

I have noticed that I need to drink at least a litre or 2 after a meal of

cooked food, and that I seem to need less after eating fruit or drinking

fruit juice all day (either way I spend half the day peeing). I have avocado

very occasionally (a few times a year at most) - I do love them, but they're

a bit pricy at times, so I usually just get them for my boy - I have a

handful of almonds if I don't have anything else available, and it's a case

of I need to eat or heads will roll. Sounds like cooked foods really are the

culprit (and meat, which is still part of a cooked meal; I cut out eggs and

milk).

 

Re the needing to eat or heads will roll, it seems a family trait that we

get very cranky when blood sugars get low (no idea if this is common for

everyone, have been too busy dealing with family explosions, hehe). However,

I was checking my blood sugar levels when I was pregnant, and shortly after,

and I found that I experience these symptoms when my blood sugars are

" normal " according to the levels they set for normal vs diabeties. I know

the numbers we use are different, but here the normal range is between 3 and

7, where 3 is low, and 7 is high. Mine average between 9 and 11 (15 is high

for me, or when I start to experiences hyperglycemic symptoms), and at 6 or

7 I experience hypoglycemic symptoms, including dizzyness, fatigue, and

irritability. Why is this so? I haven't tested other family members, so

don't know what their levels are when they start to " crack up " as they put

it. I don't test my own levels anymore, just had to when I was pregnant so

they could increase the amount of insulin I was on (not that it helped, my

levels just kept going up!), and thus the amount of weight I gained in a

week. It did help me start to recognise symptoms though, so now I just go by

what I'm feeling.

 

Caron