Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I suggest buying the book, The 80/10/10 Diet, directly from the author at Dr. Doug Graham's web site, www.foodnsport.com/811. And regarding that satiation experience, I'm SO glad to hear of this experience. Isn't it amazing ... our bodies tell us exactly when to stop eating a given food ... but only when we are eating one food at a time. Many people speak of listening to their bodies and such. Yet in my experience, most people are unaware that most of their body's messages even exist, much less what they mean. Thirst, hunger, and satiation are among the first messages from within that I teach to people willing to learn. So now you've got satiation! Let's try thirst ... every time you think you are hungry and/or feel tired, particularly during the mid- to late afternoon, pause and pay attention to your throat. Does it feel somewhat dry, perhaps a bit raspy? Drink water and wait about 20 minutes to see how you feel. Drink as much water as you wish, but slowly, not gulping. For added benefit, lie down with your eyes closed during that time. In almost all cases, that midafternoon tiredness results, at least in part, from simple systemic dehydration and hyperstimulation (as at a computer all day). So water and a bit of " shut-eye " can make a huge difference ... and you can reconnect with your sense of thirst. Best, Elchanan _____ rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of Caron Friday, June 15, 2007 9:00 AM rawfood Re: [Raw Food] Paradigm shift; Tender Greens; Satiation (WAS: Waste as byproduct; Metabolic recapture and recycling; Leaching of alkaline-forming minerals (WAS: Use urine??? (WAS: A painful lesson)) ... I will look for the book, do you know offhand if it's available in Australia? I did a quick search of online stores of major bookshops here, and found only " Postharvest: an Introduction to the Physiology and Handling of Fruit, Vegetables and Ornamentals by RON WILLS; BARRY MCGLASSON; DOUG GRAHAM & OTHERS " , which I believe is a university textbook. I'll have another look in the morning, it's way past my bedtime. Does the 80-10-10 book have more information as to what foods to eat? I'm looking for a nice, dumbed down list, that I can tick off with my fruit'n'vege order each week. Re satiation, I did try this last week sometime, got a bowlful of a particular food, and ate it piece by piece, and when I had a few pieces left, I got this sudden, horrid taste in my mouth, dry and sharp at the back of my tongue. It wasn't that I'd gotten a bad piece, as the next piece tasted the same, after rinsing my mouth with water. I've never noticed it before, it was great. I enjoy " proving " things like that for myself, so thanks. Now to prove to myself that I can eat a raw diet, and completely eliminate all my health problems ;o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 - Elchanan >I suggest buying the book, The 80/10/10 Diet, directly from the author at Dr. Doug Graham's web site, www.foodnsport.com/811. Thanks, exactly what I was looking for ) I'll have to wait till payday though. >And regarding that satiation experience, I'm SO glad to hear of this experience. Isn't it amazing ... our bodies tell us exactly when to stop eating a given food ... but only when we are eating one food at a time. It is amazing, and in a way very comforting to know that something in this body of mine still works! I prefer to eat one food at a time - it's easier, less to worry about whether foods will go ok together, and less preparation. I like things simple, too tired for anything more! >Let's try thirst ... every time you think you are hungry and/or feel tired, particularly during the mid- to late afternoon, pause and pay attention to your throat. Does it feel somewhat dry, perhaps a bit raspy? Drink water and wait about 20 minutes to see how you feel. Drink as much water as you wish, but slowly, not gulping. For added benefit, lie down with your eyes closed during that time. In almost all cases, that midafternoon tiredness results, at least in part, from simple systemic dehydration and hyperstimulation (as at a computer all day). So water and a bit of " shut-eye " can make a huge difference ... and you can reconnect with your sense of thirst. I've always drunk a lot of water, right from when I was a kid. I'd carry at least 2 litres to school every day, and drink it by lunchtime, then refill. When my boy was a couple of weeks old, I got a water filter and cooler tower, that sits behind me all day, and I have a cup on my desk that I go through at least 8-12 times a day (giving me 4-6 litres of water, at half a litre per cupful). Every time my boy has a feed, I drink a full cup (he fills it up for me before he asks for a feed now, hehe), and I also drink in the meantime, on average a mouthful or more every 20 minutes or so. When I first started putting on weight, the doctor suggested that I was overeating, even though I was eating far less than usual, and said that every time I felt hungry, I should have a drink of water instead, so that's become a habit. If I can feel my belly, I drink. I also drink if my head starts to ache, as I've had quite a few headaches from dehydration (I tend not to drink as much when I'm out, as I can only carry 2 half-litre bottles of water now, and I like to make sure I have some for the boy; I also get dehydrated overnight), or if my eyes feel dry. I rarely feel dry in my mouth, as I have a lot of mucous in the back of my throat, and tend to cough (dry cough) a lot. My nose is generally dry, but crusty (tmi?). The skin on my arms is pretty soft, but my legs are dry, and my face alternates between burnt dry, and oily. So it seems that despite the fact that I drink more water than any 3 people I know, I'm still showing most signs of dehydration at any given time. Milk supply is great - the only thing that's not dehydrated, it seems, but that doesn't surprise me, given that our body is designed to give all the good stuff to the growing infant, regardless of mother's health or intake. I'm tired all the time, so don't tend to associate that with thirst, hehe. Though if it is a sign of thirst, and I'm dehydrated all the time, I guess being tired all the time is a given. So, how do I distinguish between actual hunger and thirst hunger, and actual tiredness and thirst tiredness? Some days I feel like it's a waste of time to sleep, because I wake up feeling as bad or worse than when I went to sleep (often due to the toddler on my head, but not always, hehe). Same with eating. Thanks again, Elchanan...I mean, Elchanan...or are you going by Elchanan these days? Caron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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