On the nature of all diagnoses (WAS: Candida saliva test ... MORE ... Alcohol, Antibiotics)

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Hi Debbie,

 

LOL at this

 

(now 90% raw fooder - thanks to...the candida spit test!)

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Great humor, thank you!

 

I'd like to take this opportunity to place this entire conversation in a

different context. Specifically, I would like to encourage everyone to move

away from the very idea of diagnosis. In the present-day medical model, the

diagnosis serves two related purposes:

 

1. Directs a course of treatment.

2. Releases, or at least " justifies " , funds to pay for that course of

treatment.

 

But if the body cleanses and restores itself, then all treatments constitute

direct acts of force against ourselves, for all treatments block the body's

own processes. Therefore, we might choose to avoid all treatments (except

possibly in some trauma cases).

 

If we avoid all treatments, then we require no diagnoses. How can we benefit

from this approach?

 

Just consider all the reams of conversation here all about candida. Yet,

candida is ALWAYS a secondary symptom ... that is, it is ALWAYS preceded by

other symptoms. In fact, it is precisely when we do not notice or address

those earlier symptoms relating to improper blood sugar management that

Nature's solutions arise ... chronic fatigue, hyper/hypoglycemia, insulin

resistance, diabetes 2, candida, etc.

 

What do all these symptoms share in common? Excess sugar in the blood

stream. Did ANY of these symptoms CAUSE that problem? Of course not.

 

So if we are chronically tired, we need not wait any longer ... we need to

address our mismanagement of blood sugar. Now, what causes sugar to back up

in the blood on a chronic basis? Elevated blood fat. And how can we " solve "

this problem? By cutting the overt fats from our diet.

 

And if we know this, then we never needed the diagnosis in the first place.

In fact, having the diagnosis can be very destructive. Just look at all the

programs people go on, look at all the money people hand over to strangers

holding out promises of " cures " .

 

We would all serve ourselves and all life far better, in my opinion, by

simply adjusting our diet, eliminating the cause of the problem. Then we

could focus our talents and energy upon something more useful than a

discussion about candida.

 

No amount of discussing candida, no amount of treating it, will every cause

anyone to become healthy. On the other hand, if you simply become healthy,

then you shall never again experience ANY form of blood sugar management

problem, be it candida, diabetes, chronic fatigue, etc.

 

I mean this merely as an example. ALL diagnoses disserve us in some similar

way--they focus our attention upon our symptoms, rather than upon the cause

of whatever we may be experiencing. And most diagnoses tend to be focused

rather than systemic, that is to say, fractional rather than holistic in

nature. As diagnoses distract our attention from the CAUSE of whatever

bothers us, we tend to focus our attention upon the symptoms as if they were

the problem. From this, health can never arise.

 

Best to all,

Elchanan

 

PS: I publish most of my posts in the PathOfHealth Group.

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rawfood [rawfood ] On Behalf Of

deborah164951

Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:24 PM

rawfood

[Raw Food] Re: Candida saliva test ... MORE ... Alcohol,

Antibiotics

 

 

Hi Elchanan

 

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding, but I'm thinking then that it might be

the case that my husband's diet is 'killing' everything! (this would be no

surprise....).

 

Also, I've been feeling doubtful myself about this spit test, and am

interested that you do not rate the test. Yes, it detects candida. But, as

you say, we've got all some inside us, so (provided we use good water) the

test will detect whatever candida there is there. As to whether it can tell

the difference between an 'OK amount' and 'too much'...? (I've been

trawling the internet on this and can't find any scientific explanation for

the test - just a lot of comments, about 75% saying it's accurate, but with

no rationale for so saying.

 

If anyone remembers, I'd got all in a lather about the positive test and

immediately instituted an anti-candida diet. I hadn't actually recognised

more than one or two things on the 'symptoms' list (I feel pretty healthy),

but I had been experiencing a lot of gas and bloating associated with fruit,

and had concluded that this was because the fruit was fermenting the yeast.

 

Anyhow, for a couple of days I had no fruit. I then decided that actually

there was no way I was going to cut fruit out of my diet - not even for a

few weeks.

 

What I have done since then is eat fruit for breakfast, and at no other time

in the day. My tummy has been FINE. 'Lost' is no longer interrupted by the

bassoon in my nether regions.

 

It's all been interesting, and the net effect is, whether I have a terrible

candida overgrowth, or all this is just....nothing at all, I've weaned

myself off cooked bread and Marmite (which will stun anyone that's known me

the last 20 years!).

 

Many thanks to everyone who has shared information on this.

 

Love

 

Debbie Took, Reading, Berkshire (now 90% raw fooder - thanks to...the

candida spit test!)

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