OT: Fat vegetarians,

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Well, Venus has been termed the goddess of love and beauty and the

portrayals that I have seen of her sure don't look like the skinny, scrawny

little things that I see in the magazines and if your wife loves it then you

need to love it too. <smile> You have lost a lot of weight and 16 is nothing

to make yourself guilty over, but for that matter larger sizes shouldn't

either. Guilt or shame never is positive and not a good motivator for

anything. If you have health issues due being overweight then one has to

deal with that without guilt.

 

My daughter went to Cancun on her honeymoon a couple of years ago. She has

always been body self-conscious and hated going out in a swimming suit.

Well, Cancun in July is filled with Europeans and they have a totally

different take on body image. They were out there all different sizes and

shapes, with fat slipping over the tops of their bikinis, bellies hanging

out and with absolutely no self-consciousness about it. I mean none. To the

degree that my daughter became totally aware of how our society warps us or

trains us in what it is that we are to look like. And she was a feminist

then with a degree in Women's Studies which would make you think she would

have been immune to the brain-washing. But while she knew it factually, she

still was embarrassed by her body, not thin enough, lumps that only she saw.

But she came home with a very balanced view of her body, accepting it as

her, and has been that way since although there are moments when that ugly

monster raises its head and I remind her of Cancun. So take a page from the

Europeans.

 

I am not sure what the question is on the next one...but yes in the

world...and by world I mean our culture. But not world wide. The standards

of beauty vary. You would be ugly in some parts as you probably haven't

stretched your lower lip with plates, and you probably don't have huge, huge

rings opening up your lobes of your ears.

 

Well, maybe you just have to accept your body at what ever weight it wants

to stabilize since you have always been a bit chubby and you have a family

history of chubbiness and not fight the whole thing because as you say, it

has made things worse overall in the end. In the end the only thing that

really counts is that you are happy and that can't happen as long as you

look at parts of yourself in negative terms.You don't have to find or make

excuses for being chubby...leave that one alone. You will just have to make

excuses if you are Jack the Ripper though about why you like to strangle

women.

 

I was a skinny little girl, a skinny teen, a skinny young woman, and skinny

until a few years ago when all hell broke loose. LOL Now I look like my

mother, my grandmother, my great-grandmother and my great-great grandmother.

Gee, wonder if that has anything to do with it. LOL We all take criticism

to heart even when we think we don't...it still hurts and makes us feel less

than and puts us on the defensive in the end. But, the only solution to that

is to counteract it with positive thoughts, such as " this is me, Venus,

Goddess " and I am healthy and happy. Ignore the jerks or come up with a

snappy response to their intrusion.

 

I have never tried Quorn as it isn't vegan, but I hear that it is very good.

I like the tofu scrambler once in a while, but I fry up onions and garlic

and add the faux sausage to that and then add the scrambler. I like that

occasionally. I make up a package then portion it out into single servings

and freeze. Faux tuna? I never liked tuna prior so why would I want faux

now? LOL

linda

 

" Jayelle " <jayelle3

 

> --->Wear a size 16. Got up to size 22.

>

> It

> > is ludicrous that anyone would comment on the stereotype of all

> vegetarians

> > and vegans being thin.

>

> --->Do you mean here? (I think it's one of the hardest parts.) Or

> out in the world?

>

> --->All my life, basically. (I'm 32.) I'd probably have been

> better off had I accepted that I'd always have a belly and not tried

> to starve myself in high school.

>

> --->I had fibroids, which made exercise hard. I gained a lot of

> weight. Heart disease and high pressure run in my family,

> both sides. I'm proud that my cholesterol and pressure are

> okay right now. Most of my relatives are chubby. (I like that word

> better than fat--it sounds cuter. :-)

 

> --->My wife works in a gym, and I get her DP benefits, so I take

> belly-dancing in the gym and take advantage of a nice, clean pool.

> But I'd rather swim, walk, and surf.

>

> --->Oh, I do, but I have this real tendency to take things to heart.

 

> --->I used to use lots of cheese, but that's because I like cheese

> and just couldn't conceive of meatless food without it. I'm

> learning about other tastes.

>

> My tongue likes Quorn; it may not like scrambled tofu

> or faux tuna. (I'm picky about texture as well as taste.)