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Thank you all for your replies. To explain further what I have been

doing in practice:

 

I was influenced by The China Study and then Esselstyn's book to switch

to completely vegan in June 2008, before that I was almost vegan. I do

all my own cooking and do not buy in any ready made meals. I cook

mainly by steaming. My calories hover around 1900 per day and I have

found that my protein intake is 9% and fat 11% of calories. I have

found that with calories at that level I can not bring down my protein

to 5% and have given up on that idea, but then Campbell advises that

vegan wholefood diets do not need to come down to 5%. I have also

worked out my calcium balance and it is positive. I keep a register of

what I eat and update a nutrition analysis program that enables me to

understand my intake in nutritional terms.

 

Robin

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Hi Suzann,

 

You know...when I was pregnant and eating veg, I had a lot of negative

comments....and I had a very healthy baby, too!

 

Gwen

 

, Suzann Hughes <slhrtsla wrote:

>

> I have been eatting a gluten free, low fat mostly raw vegan diet since last

christmas.  I have ate the amounts that I wanted and have lost weight at the

rate of 1-2 lbs per week.  I am almost to normal weight range I am supposed to

be in.  The only breads that I eat are those that I make at home from gluten

free flours.  My job, I do  a lot of walking with and that may be the added key

to my sucess.

> I have not once counted a calorie but have listened to a lot of people fuss at

me for not " consuming protein since I quit eatting meat " and I still stick to my

diet.  I initially started my diet from the imformation I read in T. Colin

Campbell's book The China Study.  I don't know if anything this helps you or

not.  Trust me I understand the fustration.

> Suzann

>

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> " ddb5pan2 " <ddb5pan2

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> Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:35:42 AM

> Calories Counting and weight loss

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> T Colin Campbell in his book the China Study advises that there is no

> need to count calories to loose weight provide one is on a whole food,

> plant based, no meat, low fat diet and do some exercise. He also

> explains that the average calorie intake of the Chinese at the time was

> substantially higher than Americans but their weight was much less.

> Average calorie intake per K of body weight was 30% higher among the

> least active Chinese than among average Americans, yet body weight was

> 20% lower. Likewise vegetarians consume the same amount or even

> significantly more calories than their meat-eating counterparts and yet

> are still slimmer.

>

> I have looked at my maintenance level of calorie intake and it works out

> at 2028 assuming light activity. Anything over this and I should start

> to put on weight assuming all the calories are retained.

>

> It is very easy to exceed 2028.

>

> So who is right? Colin Campbell that I can eat is much as I like from

> his basket or the Katch-McArdle formula

> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_metabolic_rate) that uses body fat

> to work out BMI and from there the daily calorie requirements which in

> my case I calculate to be the 2028.

>

> I know from past experience that if I eat loads of bread I will put on

> weight. The formula implies that I will put on weight if I exceed the

> 2028 cals per day, but Campbell argues that should not happen because a

> low fat, low protein diet shifts conversion away from body fat to body

> heat.

>

> So I ask those of us on a low fat, low protein, vegan, whole food diet,

> do you no longer need to count calories and can you eat as much as you

> like and not be over weight?

>

> Robin

>

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