Hey Nancy! Looking for waffle recipe please...

[Guest guest]

HI guys -

Thanks for the questions. Yes, we have made these waffles many times with both soy beans and pinto beans. Remember, although this recipe calls for grinding the beans while they are still raw, it does not call for eating the resulting batter raw. The beans - in the form of the flour they create when ground - are then cooked in the waffle iron. Therefore, no one is consuming raw beans. People who follow gluten free diets have been using flours created with beans for years and years. Remember, they cook with the flour - not eat it raw. Secondly, I am not 100% sure of the accuracy of the information regarding the toxicity of raw beans. The FDA has had on their website for years that beans must be combined with grains to create a complete protein - and this myth was discredited years ago - yet the FDA continue to post it. Also, there has never been a reported case of toxicity due to raw kidney beans in the US - according to another site. If concerned - don't use red kidney beans in the recipe.

I hope this helps calm everyones fears.

Nancy Walker

www.Veg4Health.com

, "Sparrow R Jones" <sparrowrose wrote:>> On 7/23/08, Erin truepatriot wrote:> >> > According to one of the government links I gave, the FDA,> > says "Undercooked beans may be more toxic than raw beans."> > Oh, duh. I just looked at the contact info on the recipe and realized> the site is run by our own Nancy Walker - who also posted the recipe> link here.> > Nancy: have you made these waffles with pinto beans or just with soybeans?> Inquiring (and worried about lectin poisoning) minds want to know! :-)> > Thanks!> Sparrow>

[Guest guest]

Well, as you know from my own story, this was never a fear for me,

but it turned into a reality, nonetheless. Since then, and having

provided other links as well, I've always made it a point to remind

folks to boil their beans for 10 minutes before lowering the heat.

The big culprit is crockpots, when not using pre-boiled or canned

beans. I think we were just surprised that a waffle iron would

heat them up sufficiently and for long enough. So, I pointed out

the statement about undercooked being worse than raw, since maybe

they're actually closer to the latter than the former. Also, the

effect is " dose " -dependent, so as an ingredient in a waffle, you

might not notice, even if there were some lectins present. It was

not my intention to besmirch the recipe. I use beans prominently

in my own creations, as evidenced by http://www.vegandonelight.com

 

The FDA. I tend to agree. Let's not go there.

 

 

Thanks,

-Erin

http://www.zenpawn.com/vegblog

 

 

-

rane4rane

 

Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:31 AM

Hey Nancy! Re: Re: Looking for waffle recipe

please...

 

 

HI guys -

Thanks for the questions. Yes, we have made these waffles many times with

both soy beans and pinto beans. Remember, although this recipe calls for

grinding the beans while they are still raw, it does not call for eating the

resulting batter raw. The beans - in the form of the flour they create when

ground - are then cooked in the waffle iron. Therefore, no one is consuming

raw beans. People who follow gluten free diets have been using flours

created with beans for years and years. Remember, they cook with the

flour - not eat it raw. Secondly, I am not 100% sure of the accuracy of the

information regarding the toxicity of raw beans. The FDA has had on their

website for years that beans must be combined with grains to create a

complete protein - and this myth was discredited years ago - yet the FDA

continue to post it. Also, there has never been a reported case of toxicity

due to raw kidney beans in the US - according to ! another site. If

concerned - don't use red kidney beans in the recipe.

I hope this helps calm everyones fears.

Nancy Walker

www.Veg4Health.com

 

, " Sparrow R Jones " <sparrowrose

wrote:

>

> On 7/23/08, Erin truepatriot wrote:

> >

> > According to one of the government links I gave, the FDA,

> > says " Undercooked beans may be more toxic than raw beans. "

>

> Oh, duh. I just looked at the contact info on the recipe and realized

> the site is run by our own Nancy Walker - who also posted the recipe

> link here.

>

> Nancy: have you made these waffles with pinto beans or just with soybeans?

> Inquiring (and worried about lectin poisoning) minds want to know! :-)

>

> Thanks!

> Sparrow

>

[Guest guest]

I just got an error message that said that this never went through to

the list. So I'm re-sending. Nothing huge, but I feel a sense of

unfinishedness now that I know it bounced.

 

s.

 

On 7/24/08, Erin <truepatriot wrote:

>

> Well, as you know from my own story, this was never a fear for me,

> but it turned into a reality, nonetheless. Since then, and having

> provided other links as well, I've always made it a point to remind

> folks to boil their beans for 10 minutes before lowering the heat.

 

My guess is that grinding the beans up in the food processor before

putting them in the waffle iron makes them get more thoroughly cooked

throughout in a short amount of time than if they were whole beans.

 

Thanks, Nancy, for clearing up our concerns! You rock!

 

Sparrow