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Permission to CROSS POST!!! Back a few months ago, I stopped in to the Petland in South Point, OH and today, Jan. 13, my dad stopped in there on his way back to WV. He said that they are HORRIBLE!! Not on PUPS at the wazoo but KITTENS too. My dad told me that some of the pups didn't look very healthy and they had dozens of them and plenty of kittens too. Would it be wise to schedule a PROTEST of this PETLAND!? Anyone interested, please email me directly at the_hardluck_hounds because we need to show this pet store that they are anything but HUMANE and that they are merely peddling Puppy Mill Misery. I would love to put

an end to these morons selling puppy mill dogs to unsuspecting buyers!! Joanie Stambaugh West Portsmouth, OH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the

back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not

accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this

point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being

bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to

watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting

public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDErmott, OH

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Oh my gosh. How horrible! I am overseas in Japan and pets stores are a nightmare here! I thought there were laws in place in the US that monitor pet stores? Maybe I'm hoping for too much there? Would a person be able to call animal control, the police , or somebody if they found a petstore with the conditions you mentioned? I know I'd be dialing PETA! Why not protest. BUT first I would approach the manager and if he/she is not willing to change, then go for the protest/boycott, what have you! Good for you! The animals will thank you! Mori PS, wal-mart is just as badJoanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds wrote: Permission to CROSS POST!!! Back a few months ago, I stopped in to the Petland in South Point, OH and today, Jan. 13, my dad stopped in there on his way back to WV. He said that they are HORRIBLE!! Not on PUPS at the wazoo but KITTENS too. My dad told me that some of the pups didn't look very healthy and they had dozens of them and plenty of kittens too. Would it be wise to schedule a PROTEST of this PETLAND!? Anyone

interested, please email me directly at the_hardluck_hounds because we need to show this pet store that they are anything but HUMANE and that they are merely peddling Puppy Mill Misery. I would love to put an end to these morons selling puppy mill dogs to unsuspecting buyers!! Joanie Stambaugh West Portsmouth, OH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside

the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look

at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh,

our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you

have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these

pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have

paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH

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Mori, I have been to this store before and pointed out that there were problems with the pups. Nothing was done. This is a rural area of OH, almost to the WV border, and they have a Dog Warden in that county but he runs interference for back-yard breeders and also sells pure breed dogs to the highest bidder, I wouldn't trust him in an out-house with a muzzle. I know that they are getting pups at this store who are under 8 weeks of age. In the state of Ohio there are clear-cut laws stating that pups can not be sold before the age of 8 weeks. This pet store has a huge reputation for doing things illegally and unethically when it comes to their dogs. They are well-known for peddling dogs from Puppy Mills ( visit www.nopuppymills.com or do a

Google search for Puppy Mills and just read the horrific details of these poor dogs' lives). And to beat this one, there is also a Petland over in Ashland, KY which is just across the river!! I want to schedule protests for BOTH of these pet stores. It is obvious that no one else is gonna do this so those who do rescue should be there to see that the word is out about these places and the dogs that are treated cruelly in order to get those cute little puppies they sell. I currently have 8 Mill Dogs here at my house and can certainly take them with me to show others the way these dogs come out of those places--unsociable, scared, just not able to be a dog without learning from others. I have learned that PETA is not in this for the animals, they are in this for the money and the glory. If they can not get themselves on the front page

of the local papers or in the view of a news camera, then they are not interested. If they can not get their donation quota raised by at least 25%, they will refuse to assist. I have asked them for help in the past with a couple of other projects and they ignored the requests. Looks like I will have to do this one without PETA or any local humane agency. I have had several to ask if I do schedule it to let them know so they can attend. This would be the ultimate in protests since I can actually bring the Mill Survivors I have to show the viewing audience (I have a friend who is a news reporter) just what PetLand supports and the damage done to those poor little dogs. Joanie Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3cats wrote: Oh my gosh. How horrible! I am overseas in Japan and pets stores are a nightmare here! I thought there were laws in place in the US that monitor pet stores? Maybe I'm hoping for too much there? Would a person be able to call animal control, the police , or somebody if they found a petstore with the conditions you mentioned? I know I'd be dialing PETA! Why not protest. BUT first I would approach the manager and if he/she is not willing to change, then go for the protest/boycott, what have you! Good for

you! The animals will thank you! Mori PS, wal-mart is just as badJoanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds > wrote: Permission to CROSS POST!!! Back a few months ago, I stopped in to the Petland in South Point, OH and today, Jan. 13, my dad stopped in there on his way back to WV. He said that they are HORRIBLE!! Not on PUPS at the wazoo but KITTENS too. My dad told me that some of the pups didn't look very healthy and they had dozens of them and plenty of kittens too. Would it be wise to schedule a PROTEST of this PETLAND!? Anyone interested, please email me directly at the_hardluck_hounds because we need to show this pet store that they are anything but HUMANE and that they are merely peddling Puppy Mill Misery. I would love to put an end to these morons selling puppy mill dogs to unsuspecting buyers!! Joanie Stambaugh West Portsmouth, OH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well,

instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their

cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So,

are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those

illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website

after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration

camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDErmott, OH We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Damoris Tate-Keech "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert

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Hi Joanie, Wow, that is a shame about PETA. I have been trying to contact them in the hopes of finding some chapter group here in Japan. I got an e-mail that says they have a small chapter and would add my name to their list. Guess I was hoping for PETA to come to Japan ready to kick butt! Puppy mills are a true hell for those poor dogs and cats! It really is sickening how those breeders go unchecked. But what you are doing is great! I know it's hard when you feel like you are standing alone in doing the right thing. But like i said before, the animals will be grateful, and hopefully the media will geta hold of this and more attention will be brought to Petland. Petco is pretty nasty too! I always got in fights there. Gosh, wish PETA would back you. It's a shame when it's about money and not about the animals. I wish I were there. I would help you! We need more

people like you who are willing to go beyond words. Let me know how it turns out! Best of luck to you! Mori Joanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds wrote: Mori, I have been to this store before and pointed out that there were problems with the pups. Nothing was done. This is a rural area of OH, almost to the WV border, and

they have a Dog Warden in that county but he runs interference for back-yard breeders and also sells pure breed dogs to the highest bidder, I wouldn't trust him in an out-house with a muzzle. I know that they are getting pups at this store who are under 8 weeks of age. In the state of Ohio there are clear-cut laws stating that pups can not be sold before the age of 8 weeks. This pet store has a huge reputation for doing things illegally and unethically when it comes to their dogs. They are well-known for peddling dogs from Puppy Mills ( visit www.nopuppymills.com or do a Google search for Puppy Mills and just read the horrific details of these poor dogs' lives). And to beat this one, there is also a Petland over in Ashland, KY which is just across the river!! I want to schedule

protests for BOTH of these pet stores. It is obvious that no one else is gonna do this so those who do rescue should be there to see that the word is out about these places and the dogs that are treated cruelly in order to get those cute little puppies they sell. I currently have 8 Mill Dogs here at my house and can certainly take them with me to show others the way these dogs come out of those places--unsociable, scared, just not able to be a dog without learning from others. I have learned that PETA is not in this for the animals, they are in this for the money and the glory. If they can not get themselves on the front page of the local papers or in the view of a news camera, then they are not interested. If they can not get their donation quota raised by at least 25%, they will refuse to assist. I have asked them for help in the past with a couple of other projects and they ignored the

requests. Looks like I will have to do this one without PETA or any local humane agency. I have had several to ask if I do schedule it to let them know so they can attend. This would be the ultimate in protests since I can actually bring the Mill Survivors I have to show the viewing audience (I have a friend who is a news reporter) just what PetLand supports and the damage done to those poor little dogs. Joanie Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3cats > wrote: Oh my gosh. How horrible! I am overseas in Japan and pets stores are a nightmare here! I thought there were laws in place in the US that monitor pet stores? Maybe I'm hoping for

too much there? Would a person be able to call animal control, the police , or somebody if they found a petstore with the conditions you mentioned? I know I'd be dialing PETA! Why not protest. BUT first I would approach the manager and if he/she is not willing to change, then go for the protest/boycott, what have you! Good for you! The animals will thank you! Mori PS, wal-mart is just as badJoanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds > wrote: Permission to CROSS POST!!! Back a few months ago, I stopped in to the

Petland in South Point, OH and today, Jan. 13, my dad stopped in there on his way back to WV. He said that they are HORRIBLE!! Not on PUPS at the wazoo but KITTENS too. My dad told me that some of the pups didn't look very healthy and they had dozens of them and plenty of kittens too. Would it be wise to schedule a PROTEST of this PETLAND!? Anyone interested, please email me directly at the_hardluck_hounds because we need to show this pet store that they are anything but HUMANE and that they are merely peddling Puppy Mill Misery. I would love to put an end to these morons selling puppy mill dogs to unsuspecting buyers!! Joanie Stambaugh West Portsmouth, OH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound,

JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second

to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect

me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from

being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second

and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDErmott, OH We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty

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Please visit www.petstorecruelty.org . This site was created after we started our weekly protests of Petland here in Fairfax, VA. Gradually we have added more information, but our main focus has been Petland and puppy mills - we want to get as much info out to as many people as we can. There is a "page" just on protesting. We also now have tee shirts and bumper stickers! If you have any questions and/ or comments, please don't hesitate to contact us at all4theanimals Patricia Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3cats wrote: From: Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3catsMon, 15 Jan 2007 00:24:39 -0800 (PST)Re: UPDATED INFO ON THIS PETLAND!!>>I stopped at a Petland just to kill some time...... Hi Joanie, Wow, that is a shame about PETA. I have been trying to contact them in the hopes of finding some chapter group here in Japan. I got an e-mail that says they have a small chapter and would add my name to their list. Guess I was hoping for PETA to come to Japan ready to kick

butt! Puppy mills are a true hell for those poor dogs and cats! It really is sickening how those breeders go unchecked. But what you are doing is great! I know it's hard when you feel like you are standing alone in doing the right thing. But like i said before, the animals will be grateful, and hopefully the media will geta hold of this and more attention will be brought to Petland. Petco is pretty nasty too! I always got in fights there. Gosh, wish PETA would back you. It's a shame when it's about money and not about the animals. I wish I were there. I would help you! We need more people like you who are willing to go beyond words. Let me know how it turns out! Best of luck to you! Mori Joanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds > wrote: Mori, I have been to this store before and pointed out that there were problems with the pups. Nothing was done. This is a rural area of OH, almost to the WV border, and they have a Dog Warden in that county but he runs interference for back-yard breeders and also sells pure breed dogs to the highest bidder, I wouldn't trust him in an out-house with a muzzle. I know that they are getting pups at this store who are under 8 weeks of age. In the state of Ohio there are clear-cut laws stating that pups can not be sold before the age of 8 weeks. This pet store has a huge reputation for doing things illegally and unethically when it comes to their dogs. They are well-known for peddling dogs from

Puppy Mills ( visit www.nopuppymills.com or do a Google search for Puppy Mills and just read the horrific details of these poor dogs' lives). And to beat this one, there is also a Petland over in Ashland, KY which is just across the river!! I want to schedule protests for BOTH of these pet stores. It is obvious that no one else is gonna do this so those who do rescue should be there to see that the word is out about these places and the dogs that are treated cruelly in order to get those cute little puppies they sell. I currently have 8 Mill Dogs here at my house and can certainly take them with me to show others the way these dogs come out of those places--unsociable, scared, just not able to be a dog without learning from others. I have learned that PETA is not in this for the

animals, they are in this for the money and the glory. If they can not get themselves on the front page of the local papers or in the view of a news camera, then they are not interested. If they can not get their donation quota raised by at least 25%, they will refuse to assist. I have asked them for help in the past with a couple of other projects and they ignored the requests. Looks like I will have to do this one without PETA or any local humane agency. I have had several to ask if I do schedule it to let them know so they can attend. This would be the ultimate in protests since I can actually bring the Mill Survivors I have to show the viewing audience (I have a friend who is a news reporter) just what PetLand supports and the damage done to those poor little dogs. Joanie Damoris Tate-Keech

<mori3cats > wrote: Oh my gosh. How horrible! I am overseas in Japan and pets stores are a nightmare here! I thought there were laws in place in the US that monitor pet stores? Maybe I'm hoping for too much there? Would a person be able to call animal control, the police , or somebody if they found a petstore with the conditions you mentioned? I know I'd be dialing PETA! Why not protest. BUT first I would approach the manager and if he/she is not willing to change, then go for the protest/boycott, what have you! Good for you! The animals will thank you! Mori PS, wal-mart is just as badJoanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds >

wrote: Permission to CROSS POST!!! Back a few months ago, I stopped in to the Petland in South Point, OH and today, Jan. 13, my dad stopped in there on his way back to WV. He said that they are HORRIBLE!! Not on PUPS at the wazoo but KITTENS too. My dad told me that some of the pups didn't look very healthy and they had dozens of them and plenty of kittens too. Would it be wise to schedule a PROTEST of this PETLAND!? Anyone interested, please email me directly at the_hardluck_hounds

because we need to show this pet store that they are anything but HUMANE and that they are merely peddling Puppy Mill Misery. I would love to put an end to these morons selling puppy mill dogs to unsuspecting buyers!! Joanie Stambaugh West Portsmouth, OH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I

walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest

selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters." At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other

registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at

all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work

these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them

how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDErmott, OH We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Damoris Tate-Keech "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein www.savedarfur.org Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.Try the Mail Beta. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Damoris Tate-Keech "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein www.savedarfur.org Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Patricia Breen

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Now if we can only get something like that here in northern Japan! Thanks for the site address. Will check it out and pass it on! MoriPatricia Breen <breen_patricia wrote: Please visit www.petstorecruelty.org . This site was created after we started our weekly protests of Petland here in Fairfax, VA. Gradually we have added more information, but

our main focus has been Petland and puppy mills - we want to get as much info out to as many people as we can. There is a "page" just on protesting. We also now have tee shirts and bumper stickers! If you have any questions and/ or comments, please don't hesitate to contact us at all4theanimals Patricia Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3cats > wrote: From: Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3cats >Mon, 15 Jan 2007 00:24:39 -0800 (PST)Re: UPDATED INFO ON THIS PETLAND!!>>I stopped at a Petland

just to kill some time...... Hi Joanie, Wow, that is a shame about PETA. I have been trying to contact them in the hopes of finding some chapter group here in Japan. I got an e-mail that says they have a small chapter and would add my name to their list. Guess I was hoping for PETA to come to Japan ready to kick butt! Puppy mills are a true hell for those poor dogs and cats! It really is sickening how those breeders go unchecked. But what you are doing is great! I know it's hard when you feel like you are standing alone in doing the right thing. But like i said before, the animals will be grateful, and hopefully the media will geta hold of this and more attention will be brought to Petland. Petco is pretty nasty too! I always got in fights there. Gosh, wish PETA would back you. It's a shame when it's about money and not

about the animals. I wish I were there. I would help you! We need more people like you who are willing to go beyond words. Let me know how it turns out! Best of luck to you! Mori Joanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds > wrote: Mori, I have been to this store before and pointed out that there were problems with the pups. Nothing was done. This is a rural area of OH, almost to the WV border, and they have a Dog Warden in that county but he runs interference for back-yard breeders and also sells pure breed dogs to the highest bidder, I wouldn't trust him in an out-house with a muzzle. I know that they are getting pups at this store who are under 8 weeks of age. In the state of Ohio there are clear-cut laws stating that pups can not be sold before the age of 8 weeks. This pet store has a huge reputation for doing things illegally and unethically when it comes to their dogs. They are well-known for peddling dogs from Puppy Mills ( visit www.nopuppymills.com or do a Google search for Puppy Mills and just read the horrific details of these poor dogs' lives). And to beat this one, there is also a Petland over in Ashland, KY which is just across the river!! I want to schedule protests for BOTH of these pet stores. It is obvious that no one else is gonna do this so those who do rescue should be there to see that the word is out about these places and the dogs that are treated cruelly in

order to get those cute little puppies they sell. I currently have 8 Mill Dogs here at my house and can certainly take them with me to show others the way these dogs come out of those places--unsociable, scared, just not able to be a dog without learning from others. I have learned that PETA is not in this for the animals, they are in this for the money and the glory. If they can not get themselves on the front page of the local papers or in the view of a news camera, then they are not interested. If they can not get their donation quota raised by at least 25%, they will refuse to assist. I have asked them for help in the past with a couple of other projects and they ignored the requests. Looks like I will have to do this one without PETA or any local humane agency. I have had several to ask if I do schedule it to let them know so

they can attend. This would be the ultimate in protests since I can actually bring the Mill Survivors I have to show the viewing audience (I have a friend who is a news reporter) just what PetLand supports and the damage done to those poor little dogs. Joanie Damoris Tate-Keech <mori3cats > wrote: Oh my gosh. How horrible! I am overseas in Japan and pets stores are a nightmare here! I thought there were laws in place in the US that monitor pet stores? Maybe I'm hoping for too much there? Would a person be able to call animal control, the police , or somebody if they found a petstore with the conditions you mentioned? I know I'd be dialing PETA! Why not

protest. BUT first I would approach the manager and if he/she is not willing to change, then go for the protest/boycott, what have you! Good for you! The animals will thank you! Mori PS, wal-mart is just as badJoanie Stambaugh <the_hardluck_hounds > wrote: Permission to CROSS POST!!! Back a few months ago, I stopped in to the Petland in South Point, OH and today, Jan. 13, my dad stopped in there on his way back to WV. He said that they are HORRIBLE!! Not on PUPS at the wazoo but KITTENS too. My dad told me that some of the pups didn't look

very healthy and they had dozens of them and plenty of kittens too. Would it be wise to schedule a PROTEST of this PETLAND!? Anyone interested, please email me directly at the_hardluck_hounds because we need to show this pet store that they are anything but HUMANE and that they are merely peddling Puppy Mill Misery. I would love to put an end to these morons selling puppy mill dogs to unsuspecting buyers!! Joanie Stambaugh West Portsmouth, OH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was on my way to WV to do some computer work for my dad and decided to stop and kill some time and stretch my legs. Well, instead of going to the WalMart close by, I figured I'd go take a look inside the PetLand I spotted close by..... Well, I walked in to a very small but tidy store, crammed with all sorts of pet supplies and cages and tanks to sell the new pet owners. I made my way back to the animals along the back wall of the store. Oh, the puppies they had there were just too numerous to even try to name all the breeds--I do recall Peke, Pug, Dachsie, English Springer Spaniel, Cocker Spaniel, Greyhound, JRT, Poodles, Mini Schnauzer and Chihuahuas. There were many more too, even a French Bulldog!! As I made my way down the length of the puppy display, simply disgusted by the diahrreah the pups had, some were even lethargic, others were acting like they had been given a stimulant as they bounced all over their cage, I hear a young man "May I help you with the Puppies?" I turned to look at this fresh-faced kid, and shook my head, "No, not with THESE puppies." He came closer and said "We have the finest selection of pups around this area and they are all from excellent breeders from the Mid-West." I paused a second, "Oh, is that so??" "We have our pups vet checked and do not accept them unless they are in perfect health", this young man boasted. I said "Really? So what is this stuff I keep seeing linking PetLand and Puppy Mills all over the internet?" He pauses a second to think, "Must be a rumor, we get our dogs from private breeders who take pride in their litters."

At this point I was ready to just smack this kid for being stupid and gullible. I nearly died laughing at this crap too but it was too sad to be laughed off. "So, are your pups AKC registered or what?", I asked with honest sincerity. "Oh, our boss does not think AKC is the highest standard of the breeds so he prefers to take only CKC, ACA and a couple other registeries. As you can see, we have excellent pups here", this young man goes on with his sales pitch. At this point, I had heard enough trash talk and that was when I let him have the WHOLE story on these pups and their origins. "Do you honestly expect me to believe that AKC is the 'lowgrade' registery? Let me introduce myself before I continue. My name is

Joanie Stambaugh, from McDermott, OH, and I am a dog rescuer specializing in small seniors, PUPPY MILL Dogs and special needs dogs. My rescue is Joanie's Lil Senior K9 Sanctuary and Placement and I currently have 4 Mill dogs in my house that came from some of those illustrious Mid-Western Breeders you speak so highly of. Let me tell you, if you have NOT seen a mill dog, I can tell you all about them. I have had them come in to me with NO social skills at all, matted so badly you couldn't tell one end from the other, so sick they could barely stand, no teeth or lower jaws from the lack of proper care and the females being bred so much that their little bodies re-absorb their jaw-bone in order to have calcium for milk. Oh, I can tell you about a friend of mine in NE who gets them and some have their faces broken up from being kicked and brutally beaten by those wonderful breeders you speak so highly of. I can go right on

with a list of things that would make you want to vomit but I know EXACTLY where these pups were born--Puppy Mills in the Mid-West!!! If you decide you want to learn more about those hell-holes, I will be more than happy to introduce you to my poor Mill Survivors and show you website after website with pics of these places and the ACTUAL conditions these pups came out of." This kid is soooo convinced of the good work these Millers do that he tells me that their pups are the best in the country. They are genetically sound and have NO health problems. He even says they were made to watch a video on the horrors of a real puppy mill but it wasn't so bad..... I could have went through the roof!! I stood there a second and then looked him in the eye...."Have you seen these places yourself? Have you seen the actual dogs

that come out of those mills? What they send you here are the cleaned up versions of the mill dogs. I recommend a site for you, NoPuppyMills.com or better yet, go to the HSUS or PETA sites and type in Puppy Mills for a list of sites and info on these "doggy concentration camps" and have a look for yourself. Also, all of the puppy purchasers who have paid anywhere from $600 to $1500 for a pup from PetLand and then spent thousands more to save the dog's life, tell them how sound and healthy their pups were too. I have seen the reports, read their statements and in NO way do I condone selling of Puppy Mill Pups to the unsuspecting public." At this point, the kid is so blown away by the info he is hearing that he asks me if I am for real. My response--You better believe it!! At that point, I decided I had said more than enough. This kid had a look on his face that said

plenty. I paused before heading out the door, "If you think I am joking, please do check out the info on those sites I mentioned or Google Puppy Mills and see what you find..... Oh, and see, I was right, you can't help me with THOSE pups....." This happened Nov. 1, 2006 in South Point, OH at PetLand. Yours in rescue, Joanie Stambaugh McDErmott, OH We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love(and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Damoris Tate-Keech "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein www.savedarfur.org Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.Try the Mail Beta. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Damoris Tate-Keech "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein www.savedarfur.org Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Patricia Breen www.petstorecruelty.org Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. Damoris Tate-Keech "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." Albert Einstein www.savedarfur.org

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