Re:Eatting Engineered Meat: Long Reply

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Eating engineered/cloned meat is definitely still a

carnivorous edifice and though perhaps EVENTUALLY

decreasing the direct harm to animals it would in

no way serve to end the cruelty to animals in

continuing to associate them as a food product

furthering the recognition of animals to an even lower

level then already suffered effectively exaggerating

them as mere exploitable object.

 

Already this denial of animals as valued in their own

life experience independent of our utility of them is

destructive enough coupled with the Western cultural

practice of the removal of recognition between where

meat is from and as it appears in a market or on the

menu; this new act of engineering direct " meat " would

profoundly threaten animals with a new denigrated

humiliation as to completely remove the actual

association of the meat from it's animal origin

there by freeing humans of any association to cruelty

with eating meat and complete the denial of origin in

the production of meat.

 

Already this is demonstrated in the question " would

vegetarians eat engineered meat? "

 

Animals are not here for us to manipulate.To engineer

the animal meat is to exploit the value of animal life

with less value then an engineered plastic and that is

too grotesque.

 

No doubt engineered " guiltless " fur coats will be the

next fashion for those whom eat engineered meats.

 

 

To accept eating engineered/clone meat as an act not

equivalent of eating the whole animal then I am move

to ask how it would differ to eat " meat " that is

engineered/cloned from a human?

 

Please remember we're discussing " meat " here and not

full body complete organism. So would that be an

acceptable alternative to cannibalism? Anyone care

for some Clone Caviar? Human or animal would it really

matter after all its engineered " cruelty free meat "

and it seems people are making a distinction that it

is

acceptable to eat " meat " of any sort at least of the

animal variety since it is so removed from the actual

direct sentient organism and considered effectively

non physically destructive or cruel.Sorry, either of

those taste I can't suffer in my mouth.

 

One could probably breed brain dead cows right now too

that had never lived in awareness nor suffered thusly

and have them on some macabre machinery of " life

support " to enable comprehensive harvesting of viable

animal meats and organs from these brain dead animals

but it would still be grotesque and abuse all

sensibility of the real inherent living value of

animals. At least with the human donated cells for

growth of " meat " you could be assured it was

consentual.

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Thinking of the taste of the engineered/clone

" meat " , it is generally understood present meat bio

organic or engineered or otherwise gets its taste in

significant part based on what the animal ate...I.E a

cow eating corn feed or a cow eating natural pastures

contributes effectively to the taste. So this

engineered/cloned " meat " would still be at it's most

basic base nutrient level derived of corn or pasture

grasses or some other basic vegetable matter to

provide nourishment for the development and growth of

the " meat " as well as to influence and contribute to

the flavors expected.

 

The production of these engineered/cloned meats

would as such need gross amounts of resources to

provide for the nourishment and development of these

meats as well as areas to produce them, still

rivaling in consumption resources in use for direct

vegetative production.

 

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I personally think it would take more resources to

make a pound of " meat " that let's not forget would be

based on vegetative nutrients versus producing a pound

of real vegetables.

 

Consider also the producers and packagers of these

mega

" meat " factories would no doubt incur incidents of

spoiled, unsaleable meat which could pose interesting

disposal needs the likes of a bio hazard.

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Greater industrial advances of producing the

engineered/cloned meats would accordingly lead to the

provision of engineered/cloned organs of animals; as

some people or as corporations like to call us some

" consumers " prefer eating organs of animals. Presently

many are revolted at the possibility of cloning our

own human organs to save our own lives but scientist

undeterred are still willing to clone animals or their

parts there of for consumption.

 

> So I am prone to wonder; is someone going to be

eating the engineered tongue or heart of an animal? I

wonder too if that heart would have ever beaten or

just be a dead heart though somehow living viable

meat? And what of a " meat " brain of an animal? Which

makes me really begin to wonder of the implications

there of eating a " meat " brain especially as it would

be a brain that has never been alive...So does that

make it brain dead meat? I guess regardless after you

have killed an animal directly to eat of it's brain or

bio engineered its brain out of direct relation to

it's body of origin for direct consumption either way

you are eating brain dead meat So in remembering as

some of the wiser have said " we are what we eat " I'll

stay a maiden of the

corn head variety.

 

 

Continuing with such massive scale clone/engineered

cultivation of essentially every organ/body part of

the animal being created and consumed we can suppose

essentially the manufacturers would have a massive

cloning of a set group of animals as the preferred

origin of the production. (No doubt from an engineered

stock of " perfect animals " .)So essentially those

eating

this " meat " would be partaking of the flesh of a

singular cloned animal available in production from

the set group of animal stock.

 

> I.E...10,000 people eating 10, 00 " meat patties " all

> cloned from the same one animal potentially

generation after generation maybe with a few

innovations in direct grown flavor enhanced spiced

meat patties no doubt which would be appealing to mega

corporations (who I won't give any value to in naming

but we know who they are)whom would want proprietary

formulations of consumable name branded products ..

 

This idea numerically is disturbing. Over time it

could create some interesting exploitable weaknesses

in our own genetic lines. Imagine a person in some

future date

eating the same exact engineered/clone animal meat as

their great grandparent ate.What is to come from that?

Even in vegetables I don't think that is a sound

practice.

 

Assuming the exploited stock of animals isn't harmed

in the initial cultivaion of cells to produce these

" meats " which initially it would be.(Read details from

the companies)I wonder also what animals would these

cells continue to come from? Probably female animals I

think since the majority of animals consumed are

female thus continuing to exploit yet again the

maternal flesh in a wholly gross new way. To achieve

this end I question then too would the meats be

engineered with hormonal influence to ensure correct

development? Again " consumers " of meat are will

potentially be vulnerable to the influence of

contamination fom over produced hormonal influences in

generated meats along with the other compareable ill

fated health complications a meat directed diet

generates in humans.The health complications from this

are many.

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> Quoting from the article " Growing the meat without

the animal could reduce the need to keep millions of

animals in cramped conditions " . Let's replace the

insufficient word " cramped " with the more apropos word

" cruel " and we can address that statement

appropriately with a declaration that there is no NEED

now to continue the cruel condition of keeping those

animals period as presently we collectively can

" reduce " the number of animals suffering by our

instigation to zero.

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> The kind of statement aforementioned is nothing

short of sickening in it's minimilization of the

absolute gross scale of cruel horror inflicted upon

animals needlessly. Millions! The continued scale of

these consumptive genocides far exceeds millions in

cramped conditions. The engineered/cloned " meats "

regardless of direct violence perpetrated against

animals would be nothing but a tasteless legacy of

these horrors that were committed.

 

The " enjoyment " of these " guilt free meats " would be a

reprehensive denial of the gross atrocities committed

on animals in the industrialized production of them

and negate the historical atrocities of the factory

ranchers, concentration feedlots,corporations and

consumers alike.

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The continuation in eating any form of actual

meat engineered or otherwise also poses to condition

us in our evolutionary growth to a point where we will

no longer be viable vegetarians with a compassionate

choice and our children will be indentured to the

evolutionary throws of continued and potentially

increasingly carnivoristic culture that is a

comprehensive threat to any humanitarian service we do

on this planet.

 

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> The consumption of engineered/cloned " GUILT FREE

> Meat " > would only truly be of service to an industry

that makes its profit by publicizing the stigma that

meat is a necessary part of our collective diet.

These money hungry producers of engineered/cloned

meat under their false guise of humanitarian advance

would continue to provoke the hungry demand for their

insidious product as they increasingly brainwash

future

generations with their " meat is necessary propaganda " .

Brainwashing to the acceptability of satiation with

" guilt free meat " would only serve to negate the

origins of its grotesque history while really

continuing to feed the already corporate money hungry

obese.

 

 

Meat is NOT needed by humans.It may be a practice

on our part that begets from the same contingent

nature in us that evokes war, an act of over

aggressive self serving survival that comes with

destruction and violence it is not now nor will it

ever be needed.

 

The perpetuity of it in any form even engineered

cultured cloned cell " meat " as culturally acceptable

is

destructive to us and transgresses the truth of our

racial potential as peaceful, loving, benevolent

beings capable of reasoning and compassion to ALL

other beings regardless.

 

The engineering of meat is yet another negligent act

of diverting much needed resources away from solving

real problems while engineering new ones.

 

 

> I believe it is imperative now that we on behalf of

the animals and ourselves and on behalf of the

vulnerable future generations whom are subject to all

of our acts thwart ourselves from being subjected to

the potential of becoming the inundated propaganda

" cruelty free, meat hungry " masses.

 

It is crucial we stay aware and informed to the truths

and connected to our emotional intelligence knowing

the detailed truth of the horrors committed upon

animals which continues to be a vivid reflection to

present

human culture under the pretence of abataing hunger.

 

In doing so we can continue to provide a clear

understanding from the context in which the

" engineered cloned meats " are of origin from and how

their posed inundation into our culture as a viable

means of

nourishment and " guilt free " is a vital threat to

the critical understanding of sanctity that is life.

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I really have a great hope Humanity as a whole will

continue to consciously participate in an increased

emotionally intelligent manner as an informed

conscious people and choose wisely with compassionate

wisdom to abandon the gross consumption of meat

engineered or otherwise. Of this Earth as it is now

and as it was long ago there are too many delicious

vegetables, fruits, nuts and more in the garden to

satiate our hunger.

 

The only need now to satiate is the need to satiate

the end of suffering that we are all responsible for

surpassing.

 

Continuing to choose wisely what we eat will

greatly service us all in achieving this...

 

Sincerely,

Nikki Lee

 

I offer understanding

wherever I am standing;

between reason, passion, balance.