Response from the owner: : geranium: really, reall bad

[Guest guest]

I emailed a copy of Steve's review to the owner of Geranium,

 

They said the potatoe said is vegan with NO sour cream. And

the " fish water " is an assumption and definately is not fish. When

they say it's vegan it's vegan.

 

Lastly, they took out the Seitan in their menu.

 

, Steve Simitzis <steve@s...> wrote:

> the reviews of geranium have been mixed, so i wanted to throw in my

> experience, in the hope that i can save people their hard earned

cash.

>

> where to begin. when we first walked through the door, absolutely

no

> one greeted us or made any attempt to seat us, which set the tone

for

> the rest of the dinner. (once we were seated, the service was

fine.)

> however, i was willing to forgive minor glitches if the food was

> worthwhile.

>

> it wasn't. the food was bad and overpriced. and i don't mean it was

> " bad " in the sense that perhaps the kitchen was having an off

night.

> i mean everything about the food, from the recipes to the

presentation

> was extremely low quality and foul tasting.

>

> i had the " eat " loaf and my wife had the bbq'ed seitan. the bbq'ed

> seitan was literally a slab of microwaved packaged seitan with bbq

> sauce splattered on it. it came with a side of steamed spinach,

which

> tasted like it had been soaking in dirty laundry or fish water. my

> eat loaf wasn't too bad (but not great), but half of it was onions.

> the mashed potatos tasted funny to me, and after further

inspection, my

> wife realized that the funny flavor tasted exactly like sour cream!

> if true, it's extremely upsetting for a vegetarian restaurant to

serve

> a " vegan " dish containing a hidden dairy ingredient.

>

> if the food had been $7 a plate, i would have called it mediocre.

at

> $12 a plate, i am outraged.

>

> other examples of how they rip off customers: an ordinary plate of

> diner fries (identical to the fries at sparky's) with heinz

ketchup:

> $4. even water was expensive. they wouldn't just bring me a glass

of

> filtered water - i had to pay for a fancy bottle of san pelligrino.

>

> now, just to make it clear, i am definitely not cheap when it

comes to

> dining. fine dining is one of my great loves in life, and i will

> gladly spend money on an exquisitely prepared dish and an enjoyable

> dining experience. but if you really want to spend $50 on having

> a bad taste left in your mouth and an unpleasant feeling in your

> stomach, i recommend a night of drinking tequilla instead.

>

> --

>

> steve simitzis : /sim' - i - jees/

> pala : saturn5 productions

> www.steve.org : 415.282.9979

> hath the daemon spawn no fire?

[Guest guest]

I appreciate the update. I've been surprised at the extent of the

dissatisfaction with this new restaurant and hope that people may back off a

bit and give them some time to sort things out. It seems to take most

restaurants quite a while to stabilize management, quality control,

selection, etc. and I for one am glad that someone is trying to offer this

vegan one more dining option...

 

--Bruce

 

 

>

> sunny_outdoors [sunny_outdoors]

> Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:51 PM

>

> Response from the owner: : geranium: really, reall

> bad

>

>

> I emailed a copy of Steve's review to the owner of Geranium,

>

> They said the potatoe said is vegan with NO sour cream. And

> the " fish water " is an assumption and definately is not fish. When

> they say it's vegan it's vegan.

>

> Lastly, they took out the Seitan in their menu.

>

> , Steve Simitzis <steve@s...> wrote:

> > the reviews of geranium have been mixed, so i wanted to throw in my

> > experience, in the hope that i can save people their hard earned

> cash.

> >

> > where to begin. when we first walked through the door, absolutely

> no

> > one greeted us or made any attempt to seat us, which set the tone

> for

> > the rest of the dinner. (once we were seated, the service was

> fine.)

> > however, i was willing to forgive minor glitches if the food was

> > worthwhile.

> >

> > it wasn't. the food was bad and overpriced. and i don't mean it was

> > " bad " in the sense that perhaps the kitchen was having an off

> night.

> > i mean everything about the food, from the recipes to the

> presentation

> > was extremely low quality and foul tasting.

> >

> > i had the " eat " loaf and my wife had the bbq'ed seitan. the bbq'ed

> > seitan was literally a slab of microwaved packaged seitan with bbq

> > sauce splattered on it. it came with a side of steamed spinach,

> which

> > tasted like it had been soaking in dirty laundry or fish water. my

> > eat loaf wasn't too bad (but not great), but half of it was onions.

> > the mashed potatos tasted funny to me, and after further

> inspection, my

> > wife realized that the funny flavor tasted exactly like sour cream!

> > if true, it's extremely upsetting for a vegetarian restaurant to

> serve

> > a " vegan " dish containing a hidden dairy ingredient.

> >

> > if the food had been $7 a plate, i would have called it mediocre.

> at

> > $12 a plate, i am outraged.

> >

> > other examples of how they rip off customers: an ordinary plate of

> > diner fries (identical to the fries at sparky's) with heinz

> ketchup:

> > $4. even water was expensive. they wouldn't just bring me a glass

> of

> > filtered water - i had to pay for a fancy bottle of san pelligrino.

> >

> > now, just to make it clear, i am definitely not cheap when it

> comes to

> > dining. fine dining is one of my great loves in life, and i will

> > gladly spend money on an exquisitely prepared dish and an enjoyable

> > dining experience. but if you really want to spend $50 on having

> > a bad taste left in your mouth and an unpleasant feeling in your

> > stomach, i recommend a night of drinking tequilla instead.

> >

> > --

> >

> > steve simitzis : /sim' - i - jees/

> > pala : saturn5 productions

> > www.steve.org : 415.282.9979

> > hath the daemon spawn no fire?

>

>

>

>

>

> BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a community group for veggies to network

> & find support.

>

> Event Calendar, Charter, FAQ and More!

> http://www.bayareaveg.org/

>

> Bookmark this page! Don't miss local events!

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[Guest guest]

i'm glad the potatoes didn't contain sour cream, though i didn't think

fish was involved in the spinach. it just had a taste reminiscent

of a fishy flavor.

 

glad to know i wasn't fed anything non-vegan, however.

 

On 06/19/04, sunny_outdoors <sunny_outdoors wrote:

 

> I emailed a copy of Steve's review to the owner of Geranium,

>

> They said the potatoe said is vegan with NO sour cream. And

> the " fish water " is an assumption and definately is not fish. When

> they say it's vegan it's vegan.

>

> Lastly, they took out the Seitan in their menu.

>

> , Steve Simitzis <steve@s...> wrote:

> > the reviews of geranium have been mixed, so i wanted to throw in my

> > experience, in the hope that i can save people their hard earned

> cash.

> >

> > where to begin. when we first walked through the door, absolutely

> no

> > one greeted us or made any attempt to seat us, which set the tone

> for

> > the rest of the dinner. (once we were seated, the service was

> fine.)

> > however, i was willing to forgive minor glitches if the food was

> > worthwhile.

> >

> > it wasn't. the food was bad and overpriced. and i don't mean it was

> > " bad " in the sense that perhaps the kitchen was having an off

> night.

> > i mean everything about the food, from the recipes to the

> presentation

> > was extremely low quality and foul tasting.

> >

> > i had the " eat " loaf and my wife had the bbq'ed seitan. the bbq'ed

> > seitan was literally a slab of microwaved packaged seitan with bbq

> > sauce splattered on it. it came with a side of steamed spinach,

> which

> > tasted like it had been soaking in dirty laundry or fish water. my

> > eat loaf wasn't too bad (but not great), but half of it was onions.

> > the mashed potatos tasted funny to me, and after further

> inspection, my

> > wife realized that the funny flavor tasted exactly like sour cream!

> > if true, it's extremely upsetting for a vegetarian restaurant to

> serve

> > a " vegan " dish containing a hidden dairy ingredient.

> >

> > if the food had been $7 a plate, i would have called it mediocre.

> at

> > $12 a plate, i am outraged.

> >

> > other examples of how they rip off customers: an ordinary plate of

> > diner fries (identical to the fries at sparky's) with heinz

> ketchup:

> > $4. even water was expensive. they wouldn't just bring me a glass

> of

> > filtered water - i had to pay for a fancy bottle of san pelligrino.

> >

> > now, just to make it clear, i am definitely not cheap when it

> comes to

> > dining. fine dining is one of my great loves in life, and i will

> > gladly spend money on an exquisitely prepared dish and an enjoyable

> > dining experience. but if you really want to spend $50 on having

> > a bad taste left in your mouth and an unpleasant feeling in your

> > stomach, i recommend a night of drinking tequilla instead.

> >

> > --

> >

> > steve simitzis : /sim' - i - jees/

> > pala : saturn5 productions

> > www.steve.org : 415.282.9979

> > hath the daemon spawn no fire?

>

>

>

>

>

> BAY AREA VEGETARIANS (BAV) is a community group for veggies to network

> & find support.

>

> Event Calendar, Charter, FAQ and More!

> http://www.bayareaveg.org/

>

> Bookmark this page! Don't miss local events!

> http://www.bayareaveg.org/events.php

>