Re:vegan beans and what they sit next to.

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DAVID GOGGIN <dg2222 wrote:

A couple remarks:

 

>Plus, why on earth support a junk food chain with your money??

 

'Well, " junk food " (i.e. standardized food prepared quickly at low cost) is a

major and important industrial innovation and fills a key niche in the market.

Rather than condemn such restaurants we should be supporting their goals of

delivering inexpensive food efficiently while clamoring for them to make their

food healthier and more eco-friendly (i.e. vegan).

Mass production is an essential ingredient of our modern standard of living.

Otherwise we'd still be living in the dark ages with everything hand made.'

 

DG

 

 

Hmmm...I couldn't disagree with you more, David! But I already knew that as

veg*ans we're a diverse group with many points of view. Just as I choose not to

shop at WalMart because of their rabidly anti-union stance, and their below

standard wages and poor benefits, I choose not to support corporatations like

Taco Bell's parent company and Burger King, et al, that take advantage of

workers and make money off of the killing and mistreatment of animals. I want

to support businesses whose ethics I am in tune with. A meat-serving restaurant

is taking no risk by offering a vegetarian option. An all vegan restaurant is

taking a big financial risk by adhering to a set of values around health,

ecology, minimizing animal suffering, etc. It is their business I want to

support, and even if it means walking, BARTing, or otherwise traveling a little

farther to get to a vegan/vegetarian restaurant, I will do so. As far as eating

while traveling, I don't find any great need to " pull into a

fast food restaurant " either for my own hunger or to satisfy the needs of

non-veg travel mates. I can easily find a store that has bananas, apples,

bread, peanut butter, hummus, celery, carrots, and on and on. If as a small

additional advantage I don't have to worry about contaminated cutting boards,

knives, towels, cooking surfaces, e coli, salmonella, and BSE, then all the

better.

 

Bob Gotch

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

> Hi David, and others who have commented in favor of Taco Bell et al,

>

> It is hard to write this without sounding overly judgemental, but I feel

> so strongly about it that it is even harder to keep quiet!! That said, I

> realize the SFBAVeg forum is not the place for lengthy debates, so I will

> keep this brief.

>

> Apologies in advance if I appear to be claiming some kind of moral high

> ground (not my intent!) but have you ever read Eric Schlosser's Fast Food

> Nation? (Thank you, Marcy, for also mentioning this book!) I think I

> wrongly assumed that most vegans/vegetarians have indeed read this book,

> which is why I also (wrongly) assumed that no vegan/vegetarian would set

> foot in a Fast Food restaurant. If you haven't read it, then I cannot

> recommend it highly enough! It is the ultimate eye-opener (and

> stomach-churner) and shows us that when we spend money at a Fast Food

> restaurant, we are buying a whole lot more than just a meal.

>

> Joanna Warner

>

>

> DAVID GOGGIN <dg2222 wrote:

> A couple remarks:

>

> >Plus, why on earth support a junk food chain with your money??

>

> 'Well, " junk food " (i.e. standardized food prepared quickly at low cost)

> is a major and important industrial innovation and fills a key niche in

> the market. Rather than condemn such restaurants we should be supporting

> their goals of delivering inexpensive food efficiently while clamoring for

> them to make their food healthier and more eco-friendly (i.e. vegan).

> Mass production is an essential ingredient of our modern standard of

> living. Otherwise we'd still be living in the dark ages with everything

> hand made.'

>

> DG

>

>