RE: Bob Avery?

[Guest guest]

Is this your post Bob? The " from " says " Helen " ??

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Helen [helensy]

Monday, September 20, 2004 5:40 PM

RawSeattle

[RawSeattle] fw: rawfooder challenges for world chess championship

 

 

We ran an interview with raw fooder chess grandmaster Peter Leko in the M2M

a couple years after he became a grandmaster at the youngest age ever up to

that time. Now he is challenging for the world championship against the man

who defeated Gary Kasparov.

 

Actually, I don't know for sure whether he is still totally raw. Some

things I have read recently leave me with some doubts, but he no longer

likes to talk about his diet, so I can't be sure.

 

Bob Avery

 

If this is you I am curious about a post I read the other day and wanted

to get more info on it. Did you post this <Dear M2M'ers,

It's not likely that any of you are on the Atkins diet, but since it's so

popular right now, even though Atkins himself had a heart attack and stroke

and died of an accidental fall related to his heart condition, you probably

have some friends or relatives who are on it. Dr. Gregor's website does an

excellent job of tearing it to shreds, all scientifically referenced, so

that's where you should send them to get the straight poop.

In fact, he is doing such a great job that the Atkins people are threatening

legal action against him!

Bob Avery> If so I really would like to read the article at Dr. Gregor's

website about the Atkins diet but don't know who Dr. Gregor is and can't

find him in a search. Can you help me? Thanks, Breezi

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sorry to disappoint you, Breezi. This is Helen. I've forwarded Bob's email

to M2Mer's. Didn't I send the whole thing? If you want to read Dr. Gregor's

article, here it is again.

 

--------- Forwarded message ----------

 

" Michael Greger, M.D. " <mhg1

Wed, 15 Sep 2004 18:36:09 -0400

Atkins diet versus Vegan diet

 

I'm excited to add four new full-text scientific articles to

http://www.AtkinsFacts.org :

 

1. Atkins diet versus Vegan diet

2. " Low Carb Diets: Potential Short and Long-term Health Implications "

3. " Atkins Diet: Help or Hoax "

4. " Is Atkins Dead (Again)? "

 

 

1. Atkins diet versus Vegan diet

 

The Atkins Diet head-to-head with a vegan diet for one year--what did

researchers find? Read the entire article posted for the first time

on http://www.AtkinsFacts.org at

http://www.atkinsfacts.org/atkins/131/Richard_M._Fleming,_M.D..htm

 

Basically, every single cardiac risk factor measured improved on the

low-fat whole-foods vegan diet (those on the vegan diet lost 50

pounds and cut their bad cholesterol levels in half!) whereas every

single cardiac risk factor WORSENED on the Atkins Diet. The

investigator concludes " Those following high fat [Atkins] diets may

have lost weight, but at the price of increased cardiovascular risk

factors, including increased LDL cholesterol, increased

triglycerides, increased total cholesterol, decreased HDL

cholesterol, increased total/HDL cholesterol ratios, and increased

homocysteine, Lp(a), and fibrinogen levels. These increased risk

factors not only increase the risk of heart disease, but also the

risk of strokes, peripheral vascular disease, and blood clots. "

 

No wonder why in the only study to ever directly measure the effects

of the Atkins diet on the heart found that Atkins cut blood flow to

the heart 40%, whereas the vegetarian diet it was compared to opened

up arterial blockages in the coronary arteries and INCREASED blood

flow 40% (actual blood flow diagrams posted at

http://www.atkinsfacts.org/atkins/87/Blood_Flow_on_the_Atkins_Diet.htm).

 

 

2. " Low Carb Diets: Potential Short and Long-term Health Implications "

 

For the first time online, this is the scathing review published last

year in the Asia Pacific Journal of Clinical Medicine which concluded

" Complications such as heart arrhythmias, cardiac contractile

function impairment, sudden death, osteoporosis, kidney damage,

increased cancer risk, impairment of physical activity and lipid

abnormalities can all be linked to long-term restriction of

carbohydrates in the diet. "

 

Nothing like eating a diet with " sudden death " as a side-effect. Read

the entire review online at

http://www.atkinsfacts.org/atkins/133/Low_Carb_Diets:_Potential_Short_and

_Long-term_Health_Implications.htm

 

 

3. " Atkins Diet: Help or Hoax "

 

Considered one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world,

The Lancet, in its September 4th-10th 2004 issue, reviewed the Atkins

Diet. In the accompanying editorial comment " Atkins Diet: Help or

Hoax, " editors wrote " 45 million readers (of the Atkins diet book)

can't be wrong... can they? Yes, probably, according to Arne Astrup

and collegues in a rapid review. "

 

Professor Arne Astrup, M.D. Ph.D., President of the Danish Nutrition

Council, concludes " low-carbohydrate diets cannot be recommended. "

Read the entire review online at

http://www.atkinsfacts.org/atkins/134/Atkins_Diet:_Help_or_Hoax_.htm

 

 

4. " Is Atkins Dead (Again)? "

 

For the first time online, a 2004 review of how the Atkins Diet

achieved " fashion-cult status amongst society figures " in the journal

Nutrition, Metabolism and Cardiovascular Disease by the Chair of the

Department of Nutrition at the University of Glasgow. Online now at

http://www.atkinsfacts.org/atkins/130/Michael_E.J._Lean,_M.D.,_FRCP,_FRCP

S.htm

 

 

And as always http://www.AtkinsFacts.org provides full-text

condemnations of the Atkins Diet from authorities such as the

American Medical Association, the American Dietetic Association,

American Heart Association, National Cancer Institute and the Chair

of Nutrition at Harvard (and dozens of others), as well as the latest

news and my own white paper on Atkins (always being

updated--currently at 527 citations). Please help me expose the low

carb lies behind the Atkins Diet by sending people to get the facts

at http://www.AtkinsFacts.org

 

And if anyone wants to support my work on the Atkins Diet, please

consider donating to the Michael Greger Legal Fund to defend me from

the threat I received from the Atkins Corporation's Legal

Department. Click on the donate link at the bottom of

http://www.veganMD.org to help and to my monthly nutrition

newsletter for updates by sending a blank email to

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Thank you,

-Michael

 

 

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