Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 hey martha, or norm. i am 16 years old and i had a lot of the same symptoms that you did (martha). i had dizzyness all the time, i'd come close to passing out, and i would have symptome that could only be described as hot flashes. i know that doesn't really sound like MS, but the 10th doctor i saw was almost certain it was MS. the neurologist took 2 MRI's on my brain and eventually found that i had a leision in my brain. right smack dab in the middle of it. they wanted to do one more test and/or cut me open. so i had a spinal tap (the worst experience of my life, i might add) and they said that you sould go and see another panel of doctors at the University of Washington. i decided that 11 different doctors, various pills, shots, blood draws, physicals, exams and various other tests were enough. i had had it and decided that i needed to make a drastic change. and let me tell you martha, ever since i went 100% raw 8 months ago, i have never been the same. i have never before felt highs that i feel every day. i have gone through a lot, and having even more symptoms (that i probly shouldn't describe that have to do with girly stuff) and depression, the whole thing, let me tell you that i have been changed fully. i don't think i will evey go back because of how good i feel. 99% of the symptoms deminished within the first 2 months. let me let you know that i never went through a transition period. i went from eating meat, candy bars, cheese, chips, pasta, rice, everything you could ever think of, to being fully raw- overnight. so if you have any doubts that you cant go fully raw, i want to encourage you that you can do it, i am 16 years old. my family is on Atkins, and i go to a very public high school (if you know what i mean). so for anyone out there- i haven't cheated- i have been 100% raw for 8 months on new years. so you can do it too- it is so great, i have lost a significant amount of weight, burdens on my shoulders lifted, and most of all, my symptoms have decreased dramatically. if anyone has any questions, or comments about what i just shared, or about MS, or anything, feel free to e-mail me at sam2dabeach thanks seattle, thanks martha, i hope you are encouraged to make the change that i made and have the time of your life, just as i am every day. thanks again, in the raw, ``sam``` kelpguy <kelpguy wrote: hi seattle... a friend of mine (martha, age 52) was diagnosed with ms in june '02 with symptoms of numbness in fingers and toes, wobbly legs and optic neuritis (the last has remitted). symptoms had been apparent only a few months. she's been eating maybe 60% raw since the ms diagnosis and is increasing that percentage as comfortable. yoga is helping mobility. we're looking for support from someone who has been here also, or anyone who can offer guidance, suggestions, or experiences with autoimmune diseases. sue... do you have any input on nutrition martha is concerned about raw sources for efa's, vitamins d and b12 i've read you can ''stave out'' a disease with a clean diet can anyone explain how this applies autoimmune diseases thanks in advance peace, love and hachia persimmons... norm )~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2003 Report Share Posted December 29, 2003 Wow, Sam, that is fascinating testimony. Your recovery in itself is testament to what the body can do when we give it the opportunity. It especially illustrates the strength and vitality that are still present in a young body, even one that has begun to degenerate from chronic self-intoxication. Your experience with transitioning at 16 is very different from what I experienced and what others go through when they transition at a later age. Just goes to show that the longer we put off getting well, the more we have to suffer for our mistakes. In any case, you are a really extraordinary young woman for making the decisions you did and sticking to them. Norm, or Martha, I think one important thing for anyone suffering from a degenerative disease to understand is that it doesn't matter what the disease is called because the " cure " is the same. So-called autoimmune diseases are no different from other chronic conditions in that the cause is the same and to heal them you need only remove the cause. The label that is assigned to them only allows the misguided medical community to sell sufferers different strategies for managing different symptoms. Once you give up on suppressing symptoms at all and embrace the idea that your body can heal itself, you don't need the labels. I'd recommend that Martha read " Awakening Our Self Healing Body " by Art Baker for more information about this. Also, the depoprovera board that I mentioned yesterday is populated by former sufferers of chronic disease so there is lots of info of this nature there, along with support from others in her position. There has also been a lot of talk there that would allay her concerns about nutrient deficiencies. Nora samantha woolsey wrote: > hey martha, or norm. i am 16 years old and i had a lot of the same symptoms that you did (martha). i had dizzyness all the time, i'd come close to passing out, and i would have symptome that could only be described as hot flashes. i know that doesn't really sound like MS, but the 10th doctor i saw was almost certain it was MS. the neurologist took 2 MRI's on my brain and eventually found that i had a leision in my brain. right smack dab in the middle of it. they wanted to do one more test and/or cut me open. so i had a spinal tap (the worst experience of my life, i might add) and they said that you sould go and see another panel of doctors at the University of Washington. i decided that 11 different doctors, various pills, shots, blood draws, physicals, exams and various other tests were enough. i had had it and decided that i needed to make a drastic change. and let me tell you martha, ever since i went 100% raw 8 months ago, i have never been the same. i have never before > felt highs that i feel every day. i have gone through a lot, and having even more symptoms (that i probly shouldn't describe that have to do with girly stuff) and depression, the whole thing, let me tell you that i have been changed fully. i don't think i will evey go back because of how good i feel. 99% of the symptoms deminished within the first 2 months. let me let you know that i never went through a transition period. i went from eating meat, candy bars, cheese, chips, pasta, rice, everything you could ever think of, to being fully raw- overnight. so if you have any doubts that you cant go fully raw, i want to encourage you that you can do it, i am 16 years old. my family is on Atkins, and i go to a very public high school (if you know what i mean). so for anyone out there- i haven't cheated- i have been 100% raw for 8 months on new years. so you can do it too- it is so great, i have lost a significant amount of weight, burdens on my shoulders lifted, and most of all, my > symptoms have decreased dramatically. if anyone has any questions, or comments about what i just shared, or about MS, or anything, feel free to e-mail me at sam2dabeach > thanks seattle, thanks martha, i hope you are encouraged to make the change that i made and have the time of your life, just as i am every day. > thanks again, > > in the raw, > > ``sam``` > > kelpguy <kelpguy wrote: > hi seattle... > > a friend of mine (martha, age 52) was diagnosed with ms in june '02 with > symptoms of > numbness in fingers and toes, wobbly legs and optic neuritis (the last > has remitted). symptoms had been apparent only a few months. > > she's been eating maybe 60% raw since the ms diagnosis and is increasing > that percentage as comfortable. yoga is helping mobility. > > we're looking for support from someone who has been here also, or anyone > who can offer guidance, suggestions, or experiences with autoimmune > diseases. > > sue... do you have any input on nutrition > martha is concerned about raw sources for efa's, vitamins d and b12 > > i've read you can ''stave out'' a disease with a clean diet > can anyone explain how this applies autoimmune diseases > > thanks in advance > peace, love and hachia persimmons... > norm )~ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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