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Ron

 

Know that we each have to follow our own path. The choices that are made

may not be clear to those closest. Know that any life choice is valid,

especially if it is contrary to your own. Bless their heart for the path

that they follow as you continue to follow your own path . Focus on what

you desire to be and then " be " it. Know that it is possible.

 

What you focus on you draw to you.

 

Light and Love

 

Ramona

 

 

 

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" rlmftw " <rlmftw

<RawSeattle >

Monday, November 17, 2003 11:00 AM

[RawSeattle] Re: Caffeine

 

 

> Ramona

>

> Thank you for your encouragement and support. I sometimes feel that

> I may retire to Seattle if I can't find a raw support group here.

> Another idea I have had is to drive to Dallas on the weekends to make

> meetins there. But I have still been unable to find the raw group

> there! I have an internet address, but every time I punch it in, I

> wind up an the AOL Homepage?

>

> I'm still searching for raw support groups in the Ft. Worth, Dallas

> area. You don't happen to know of any, do you?

>

> Another thing I have thought of is trying to help someone here; then

> there would be two of us here. I'm going to start putting posters

> out on telephone posts or something like that.

>

> But one thing that I have learned is that a person who does not ask

> me for help does not want help from me! I can't imagine that 350

> pound sloppy-fat women would want to be sloppy fat, but it is

> apparently true because they certainly don't want any help with their

> food problems, from what I can see.

>

> It is astounding to me that 60% of our society is obese because THEY

> WANT TO BE, rather than because they can't help it. In that case, I

> have no sympathy or respect for them. I don't even want to talk to

> them. Let them die!

>

> I am learing that I do not want to eat socially here. I want to keep

> my raw food program secret so that it is not a source of ridicule,

> debate or argument. I don't have time for any of that.

>

>

> I suggest that you are very lucky to have a large and active raw

> community in Seattle.

>

> Ron

>

> RawSeattle , " sturtevants " <sturtevants@c...>

> wrote:

> >

> > Ron

> >

> > When I first went raw the only support I received was from the

> classes I was taking learning how to prepare raw food.

> >

> > I later found the support group but the group needs were very

> different from my own but I still liked being with others who chose

> the lifestyle.

> >

> > The majority of the group lived closer to the meeting area and I

> lived much futher out, but I was willing to battle the traffic and

> take the time to attend the meetings because that was all that was

> available to me at the time.

> >

> > With time it became apparent that I had to make a choice. The

> choice was - did I truly want to practice the raw vegan lifestyle or

> not and how was " I " going to accomplish it. What was I really

> prepared to do?

> >

> > I make dehydrated crackers about once a month. This has been a

> trial and error prosses to develop a recipe that I enjoy. There were

> some batches that did not turn out well and I fretted about the

> wasted expence but I continued because our failures bring about the

> greatest learning. These crackers are a geat quick bite when there

> is nothing else to be eaten and I am hungry. I eat them when I want

> a little more than what is avaialbe.

> >

> > I keep my favorite foods around and always come prepared with " my

> food " where ever I go if I wish to eat there. I either eat it all

> there or use part of it to supplement what is being served.

> >

> > I have no guilt about it becuse this is my choice to do this. The

> most reactions are from others but they usually only show it in

> their faces. I allow them to have their reaction for it is their

> choice to have it.

> >

> > I enourage you to allow yourself to " be " as you desire to " be " .

> You are creating yourself anew and there will be times or trial and

> error but know that this is a blessing to help you develop the " new "

> you.

> >

> > You are in my thoughts and prayers

> >

> > Light and Love

> >

> > Ramona

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > rlmftw

> > RawSeattle

> > Friday, November 14, 2003 8:01 AM

> > [RawSeattle] Caffeine

> >

> >

> > I've been going " cold-turkey " on multiple addictions since 11-8-

> 03.

> > Caffeine is one of the things I'm (supposed to be) off of.

> >

> > I find that I have to abstain entirely from caffeine and other

> > addictive substances because a little of them causes me an

> addiction,

> > a craving, or a distress that puts me back on the merry-go-round

> with

> > that addiction. It's like an alcoholic with alcohol!! With me,

> it's

> > exactly like that with everything addictive!

> >

> > Yesterday I went to the deli of a health food store, of all

> places,

> > and asked for some non caffeine herbal tea. They got panicked

> and

> > confused with my request and brought me a cup of strong black

> tea. I

> > knew the minute I tasted it that it was not herbal tea, but I

> drank

> > it anyway because I had paid $2.69 for a cup of hot water and I

> > didn't want to " waste my money " !!!!

> >

> > After being clean for nearly a week the large cup of black tea

> put me

> > back on the caffeine merry-go-round. I woke with headaches and

> > withdrawals this morning and had a tough day at work, so I drank

> a

> > cup of coffee to get rid of the headaches and caffeine

> withdrawals.

> >

> > Now I'm back into coffee big time!

> >

> > MORAL OF THE STORY: Apparently, I cannot trust restaurants,

> > strangers, or even raw food potlucks to serve me food that I can

> > eat!! Eating can no longer be a social function for me. I must

> take

> > my own food, or stick to fresh, raw fruit in public or on social

> > occassions where I cannot do my own food selection.

> >

> > Has this been anyone else's experience?

> >

> > Actually, once I decide to get off all addictions I take the path

> > less travelled by others. Most people aren't interested in

> getting

> > off all the stuff I'm getting off of. They just say, " Good luck "

> and

> > let my face my own fate. Perhaps I need to look for ONE FRIEND

> > instead of FRIENDS!!

> >

> > I would be very gratified to find ONE OTHER PERSON in this world

> who

> > has similar problems and solutions to mine!! I thrive on like-

> > mindedness and compatibility. I don't like going it alone and

> > charting my own course.

> >

> > Ron McClure

> >

> >

> >