Guest guest Posted May 14, 2002 Report Share Posted May 14, 2002 hi ben and all ya raw fooders... ben wrote; > Just for information purposes...> > I just checked with the folks at Really Raw Honey. Here is their > reply:> > The bees are not harmed in getting the honey. If the bees are > unsettled, smoke is used to settled them, but the smoke does not harm > the bees. <cough.... cough> let's see... do bees have lungs, eyes. , etc. <cough... cough> according to book, 'the hive and the honey bee', "the chemical changes that go on constantly inside the body cells of living things require oxygen for consumption, and produce carbon monoxide which must be eliminated". so i'm not clear if they have nostrils, lungs etc. or what but they definatly are taking in air somehow and i would think the smoke would affect them like it does humans <cough>. why else would they retreat into the hive if smoke wasn't a irritant to them. as for the eyes??? they obviously have eyes which would also be affected by smoke but i found no information on this. attila wrote;> a few raw thoughts....that is right, when you> remove the honey, you don't really harm the bees,> but what about the fact, that by permanently removing> the honey, the poor suckers are forced to permanently> go about rebuilding the "stock", just the way it> happens with the cows being constantly milked even> whenthere's no baby around to feed...otherwise, they> would naturally stop creating milk until the next> calf...true or false?... yes... bees are also manipulated into producing beyond their natural needs. i've read scores of articles in bee literature on the subject of how to get the maximum amount of honey. and like milk cows, laying hens etc., they are overworked to the 'max' and die at an early age because of it. i'm sure the 'really raw honey' people have good intentions and love their bees. like-wise, the 4-h child loves the baby lamb that she/he is raising for a 4-h project only to have it slaughtered at maturity, it's skin peeled off, it's body cut up into pieces for human consumption, it's organs and the rest of it's body ground up to feed to other animals... what kinda love is that??? >mangoes are super nowadays, aren't they?.. ya... mangoes.... norm )~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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