Creeping Crud

[Guest guest]

Well, after being in my " holier than thou " attitude, thinking that

because I'm raw I can't get sick (and this has usually been true),

I'm now down with the same thing that my " cooked " friends have had

over the past month -- and, as a result, I missed being at Karen's

class today. Plus, I feel lousy.

 

[Note to Attila: I am fasting today]

 

So, now for my question: If I'm merely " detoxing, " how come I have

the same chest cough and headache that so many others have been

suffering from? Raw people tell me that there's no such thing as

being contagious. Is it merely coincidence that 100s of people have

the same symptoms at the same time?

 

Apart from not feeling well, coughing, and having a voice that's

unrecognizable to my sweetie, I am genuinely disappointed to have

missed hearing Dr. Jayne and Karen today. Perhaps someone can write a

short synopsis for the board.

 

Blessings,

Annette

[Guest guest]

thanks for the note,annette,

there is no reason for disappointment, learn more,

experience more instead, you'll get there,i assure

you,

the cleansing process may take much more than

expected,

months....years.... depending of your constitution,

and

lifestyle... after almost five years, i still have a

mild version of detox every year, similar to other

100s around me...i work in a pretty dirty environment,

dealing with sewer, moldy attics and crowlspaces,

sheetrocks and solvents and paints and cleaning soaps

and bleacvh and liquid live and many many more...

so i get stuffed up, too, no matter how raw my food

is,

sometimes i even question the apparent paradox

between a normal activity of my body to create

protective mucus against those agents mentioned above

and the mucus solving and eliminating effect of the

raw diet, (anybody in the same boat?)....

and lets not forget about the environmental effects

of the puget sound area, months in a row clouds and

rain and no sunshine and little natural warmth ,

only artificially heated interiours, could this be a

considerable factor? we have to find out ourselves,

and it will take time, a whole lot of time, right?

now, you tell me about your fasting, how you plan/do

it, for how long you've been raw, .... lots of

cefficients in the formula....and these would be the

major subjects of the support group meetings.... lots

of personal observations identified and integrated

into a new natural whole, almost totally erased out of

the human memory,

anyway, fasting is the best thing you could do, just

watch carefully, stay in the bed all the time, and

close your eyes all the time, and do nothing but

observe,and sense, and feel, and experience, and be,

and don't worry about the rest, " the rest " knows what

it's doing, you can trust it, ok?

be a good girl, see you soon, (maybe tomorrow?)

a tt i l a

 

 

 

 

--- cloudriver <Tsunami wrote:

> Well, after being in my " holier than thou " attitude,

> thinking that

> because I'm raw I can't get sick (and this has

> usually been true),

> I'm now down with the same thing that my " cooked "

> friends have had

> over the past month -- and, as a result, I missed

> being at Karen's

> class today. Plus, I feel lousy.

>

> [Note to Attila: I am fasting today]

>

> So, now for my question: If I'm merely " detoxing, "

> how come I have

> the same chest cough and headache that so many

> others have been

> suffering from? Raw people tell me that there's no

> such thing as

> being contagious. Is it merely coincidence that 100s

> of people have

> the same symptoms at the same time?

>

> Apart from not feeling well, coughing, and having a

> voice that's

> unrecognizable to my sweetie, I am genuinely

> disappointed to have

> missed hearing Dr. Jayne and Karen today. Perhaps

> someone can write a

> short synopsis for the board.

>

> Blessings,

> Annette

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

>Well, after being in my " holier than thou " attitude, thinking that

>because I'm raw I can't get sick (and this has usually been true),

>I'm now down with the same thing that my " cooked " friends have had

>over the past month -- and, as a result, I missed being at Karen's

>class today. Plus, I feel lousy.

>

>[Note to Attila: I am fasting today]

>

>So, now for my question: If I'm merely " detoxing, " how come I have

>the same chest cough and headache that so many others have been

>suffering from? Raw people tell me that there's no such thing as

>being contagious. Is it merely coincidence that 100s of people have

>the same symptoms at the same time?

 

Annettc (Paula too!),

 

Here's one theory: It may be that the very detoxing " symptoms " that

your body needs are found in that exact virus or " bug. " If that is

the case then when you come into contact with the virus, your body

accepts it!

 

In terms of what to do about it, over the years I have tried to look

at my body and try to help it in cleansing. This typically meant a

juice diet ( " juice fast. " Although now I would likely water fast),

sometimes some light fruits or veggies. I do suggest staying off

nuts and seeds (grains, too, if you eat those). The heavier, higher

protein foods may move through your system slower than lighter foods.

If there are things (toxins, etc.) that need to move out of your

body, if you are going to eat, then try helping the body by eating

foods that will move quicker. But first and foremost, follow your

intuition!

 

Jeff

[Guest guest]

Hi Annette,

 

Just got over that sickness myself... first time in three years I've been

'sick'. Wasn't fun. I thought it may have been because I defiantly decided

to eat some pizza recently after two years at 100%. That may have

contributed, but there was a lot more to it than that.

 

At Karen's talk yesterday at the Vita Bar, Dr. Christopher Jayne reaffirmed

something that I have been coming to learn myself over the course of my last

couple of raw years. That is, this is a process of cleansing that takes

years, not months. Besides that, there is so, so much more to sickness

(excuse me, 'detoxing' - I suppose we don't 'shit' either ; ) than can be

prevented through diet alone. For those who are on the belief path that

this is a panacea... learn now or learn later. Raw people in transition

(meaning up to 7 years or more) get sick - though probably less than the

general population, and this is a very positive step in the right direction.

Takes awhile to clean up a body that has been abused for decades. And

there's a lot more unclean stuff in our environment than just the poor food

we've consumed.

 

Happy healing. Get better! Throw some yoga in with that fresh organic

orange juice.

 

Namaste,

 

Mark

 

 

cloudriver [Tsunami]

Sunday, February 24, 2002 5:18 PM

RawSeattle

[RawSeattle] " Creeping Crud "

 

 

Well, after being in my " holier than thou " attitude, thinking that

because I'm raw I can't get sick (and this has usually been true),

I'm now down with the same thing that my " cooked " friends have had

over the past month -- and, as a result, I missed being at Karen's

class today. Plus, I feel lousy.

 

[Note to Attila: I am fasting today]

 

So, now for my question: If I'm merely " detoxing, " how come I have

the same chest cough and headache that so many others have been

suffering from? Raw people tell me that there's no such thing as

being contagious. Is it merely coincidence that 100s of people have

the same symptoms at the same time?

 

Apart from not feeling well, coughing, and having a voice that's

unrecognizable to my sweetie, I am genuinely disappointed to have

missed hearing Dr. Jayne and Karen today. Perhaps someone can write a

short synopsis for the board.

 

Blessings,

Annette

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for your input. And especially Attila for the hug offer. I

live in Portland now, so I'll just have to feel the love from here

 

Paula